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  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    DonnerKebab wrote: »
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    DonnerKebab wrote: »
    @toffuna101 I know it's scary for you, but remember, there is no guarantee they will resort to sectioning my friend. I'm so sorry your going through this all right now

    yeah. its okay, you dont have to apologise. i hope they just give me therapy instead because i dont want to spend my summer in a psychiatric hospital. plus theyll be other patients there and theyll need treatment too. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 as i say, i don't think they will because A - it's cheaper and easier to provide therapy than to section you, B - the police would have taken you in for a psychiatric evaluation if they thought you were a danger to yourself and others during there visit which is a requirement for sectioning, C - sectioning is an absolute last emergency resort, and D - there is far more capacity for therapy than there is for sectioning. All the factors all seem to be pointing in the direction of therapy rather than sectioning. I'm just sorry your suffering through this all. You're an amazing person, and you don't deserve to go through this struggle my friend.

    yeah im kinda annoyed that i didnt ask them to send me to A&E and i cant get my dad to phone the police either because he just flat out refuses and tells me to calm down. he cant take me to A&E either because hes working today. my mum cant take me to A&E because she doesnt like going out. i feel like im just stuck honestly. the only option is to call 999, but if they send an ambulance out my dad would have to go with me because im under 18. and plus theyd send me somewhere outside of the county i live in since im in the border between london and essex. i live in hertfordshire. id have to call 999 through google mini since my mum confiscated my phone. i just want more than therapy. i have plans to do something to myself or others. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 if you have plans to do something to yourself, and your mum and dad have refused to help outright, then call emergency services and get yourself help. You are an amazing person. They will send an ambulance, they will take you to hospital, and they will get you a psychiatrist to assess you. Only ring if you can't keep yourself safe okay. If it's because you want more than therapy, more support, then you can try and get a referral to a psychiatrist through different avenues. Ring only if you can't keep yourself safe or others.

    I'm so sorry you're at this stage my friend. Remember, you are an amazing person, truly one of the few gems in this world, and you deserve a world of kindness and care.

    thank you. ill try talking to my dad now about this because ive gotten worse. ill give you an update. @DonnerKebab
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    @toffuna101

    111 is a good option if your unsure, they can direct you based on everything you tell them. They can send an ambulance out to you, or they can help you figure out how to get a psychiatrist assessment, but the base rule still exists. 999 if you have plans to harm yourself or others. Otherwise, 111 or your GP who can refer you to a psychiatrist if not.

    I'm wishing you the best of luck my friend. Don't worry about updating me, just make sure you get the help you deserve, and get better. You are an amazing person.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    DonnerKebab wrote: »
    @toffuna101

    111 is a good option if your unsure, they can direct you based on everything you tell them. They can send an ambulance out to you, or they can help you figure out how to get a psychiatrist assessment, but the base rule still exists. 999 if you have plans to harm yourself or others. Otherwise, 111 or your GP who can refer you to a psychiatrist if not.

    I'm wishing you the best of luck my friend. Don't worry about updating me, just make sure you get the help you deserve, and get better. You are an amazing person.

    my dad told me that he'll take me to A&E in the morning. @DonnerKebab
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    @toffuna101 Amazing stuff. That's much better than nothing. I'm so proud of you for getting help despite how scary it is. I just want to check, you are safe until morning right?
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    DonnerKebab wrote: »
    @toffuna101 Amazing stuff. That's much better than nothing. I'm so proud of you for getting help despite how scary it is. I just want to check, you are safe until morning right?

    im safe dont worry. @DonnerKebab
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
    :/
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • Sian321Sian321 Community Manager Posts: 1,601 Extreme Poster
    @toffuna101 , thank you so much for your messages here. From what you've shared, it sounds like you've had an extreamly hard day yesterday and night. You're doing so well to talk about this.

    You said that you do have plans to hurt yourself and others, and we take your feelings seriously. Can I ask, how are you keeping yourself safe from acting on these plans right now? What is supporting you in doing so?

    You mentioned that your Dad said he could take you to A&E this morning. Can we check whether you've been able to do this yet or to speak with a medical professional?

    Please know that if you do feel you're at a point of crisis or struggling to cope and stay safe, Childline and Papyrus are here for you today to get some 1:1 support:
    https://www.childline.org.uk/
    https://www.papyrus-uk.org/

    Would you feel able to contact them?

    Thank you for your trust in sharing this, and I hear just how much you're wanting to get help and keep safe. That feels powerful.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 7,957 Master Poster
    feeling rly low
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    eylah wrote: »
    feeling rly low

    @eylah i'm here my fellow twat <3

    what's on your mind? Did you manage to get some sleep in last night?
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    River wrote: »
    :/

    @River sorry i missed this earlier, how are you?
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
    @DonnerKebab shit didn’t want to wake up today but oh well I’m safe so it doesn’t matter
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • Sian321Sian321 Community Manager Posts: 1,601 Extreme Poster
    @eylah , it sounds like today is feeling really hard. Thank you for sharing that with us. We're all here for you as your Community. What's feeling like the hardest part about today? No pressure to share anything you don't wish to, though we'll have our Support Chat at 1:30pm today if you did wish to come along.
  • Sian321Sian321 Community Manager Posts: 1,601 Extreme Poster
    @River , feeling like you didn't want to wake up today sounds extreamly hard. I wonder if something might have triggered that feeling for you, or perhaps it is more of a general sense or a build up of multiple things?

    Thank uyou for letting us know you're physically safe, though I realise that doesn't always take away from just how tiring and crushing it can feel to be struggling with being alive.

    Can I ask, how are you practically keeping safe right now? What is helping you to do so?

    These spaces are here should you like 1:1 support today -
    Samaritans - https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/
    Papyrus - https://www.papyrus-uk.org/
    CALM - https://www.thecalmzone.net/
    SHOUT 24/7 Text service - https://giveusashout.org/
    Switchboard (LGBTQIA+) - https://switchboard.lgbt/

    We're all here for you
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    River wrote: »
    @DonnerKebab shit didn’t want to wake up today but oh well I’m safe so it doesn’t matter

    @River it does matter. I'm here to talk to about anything you want to friend, and i'm sorry your going through this right now.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
    Mhm no one cares unless you present suicidal thoughts lol and then all of a sudden you matter. I’m safe that’s it…dw about me I ain’t worth the time or the energy in typing
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
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    River wrote: »
    Mhm no one cares unless you present suicidal thoughts lol and then all of a sudden you matter. I’m safe that’s it…dw about me I ain’t worth the time or the energy in typing

    @River that's sadly true for a lot of the world, but i hope i've been different from that this last month. We've talked about all sorts of stuff, during the good times and bad time for you. Because you do matter, so much more than you think right now. You are worth all the effort and time in the world my friend.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
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    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    River wrote: »
    @DonnerKebab your the only person to actually support me and take the time to support me <3

    @River that's cause you 100% deserve to be supported and cared about. Don't let others failings make you think you don't deserve support, because you do.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
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    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Community Connector Posts: 2,273 Boards Champion
    River wrote: »
    @DonnerKebab your the only person to actually support me and take the time to support me <3

    i don’t at all mean to be cheeky or nothing here but that feels quite unfair to say when i have replied to you several times in chats and on boards, i know often my replies to your threads on here don’t get acknowledged at all but i so often take the time to sit and read what you’re going through and reply to it. i know there are other people on here too that also take the time to support you…
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    shannon_164 wrote: »
    River wrote: »
    @DonnerKebab your the only person to actually support me and take the time to support me <3

    i don’t at all mean to be cheeky or nothing here but that feels quite unfair to say when i have replied to you several times in chats and on boards, i know often my replies to your threads on here don’t get acknowledged at all but i so often take the time to sit and read what you’re going through and reply to it. i know there are other people on here too that also take the time to support you…

    @shannon_164 i'm sorry, i think she was just saying that to be supportive of me and kind to me, and didn't mean to upset you. We all know how supportive you've been Shannon. Please still find some supportive community, because you deserve it. i know what you mean now with certain edits being made to what's been said, but please find some place you can freely vent. Heck, create an anonymous email if needs be so we can email you to check in on you to see how your doing and so you can still vent without said restrictions from the platform. Just don't be alone, because your an amazing person. And i'm gonna miss you.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
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    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Community Connector Posts: 2,273 Boards Champion
    edited 1:06PM
    you didn’t need to delete it @River - sorry for causing issues but hey ho that’s all i ever do anyways around here clearly:)) i just feel like it was quite an unfair statement giving how much i, and others, have actually supported you too. kinda hurtful in a way i personally felt.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
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    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Community Connector Posts: 2,273 Boards Champion
    i can’t word what i want to say in a way that isn’t gonna be taken badly, but it’s nothing personal. it was just the comment was right there and yeah it felt kinda hurtful knowing i have realistically spent hours replying in chats and on boards. sorry if this has annoyed your or anything, wasn’t my intentions. and also, i actually have in fact said to other people too about how i feel when they say they don’t get support and i know for sure i have replied to them. sorry for being the biggest problem in the world…
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    River wrote: »
    Not gonna argue but why can others put that they never get support when I reply to them yet when I do it, it gets picked up on.

    @River @shannon_164 i'm 100% certain river meant no offense, she isn't like that. I think it's because we're sort of the midnight gang and pretty much talk for most of the night me and her, and i was responding to her which is why. She didn't mean to cause any offense or say that you didn't give her any support. She was just trying to be nice to me.

    You both give a huge amount of support to others, and i'm proud to call you both my friends.
  • shannon_164shannon_164 Community Connector Posts: 2,273 Boards Champion
    edited 1:18PM
    dw, i won’t be around on the community anymore so you won’t have nothing to worry about
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    shannon_164 wrote: »
    i can’t word what i want to say in a way that isn’t gonna be taken badly, but it’s nothing personal. it was just the comment was right there and yeah it felt kinda hurtful knowing i have realistically spent hours replying in chats and on boards. sorry if this has annoyed your or anything, wasn’t my intentions. and also, i actually have in fact said to other people too about how i feel when they say they don’t get support and i know for sure i have replied to them. sorry for being the biggest problem in the world…

    @shannon_164 you aren't a problem at all. And river isn't a problem either. It was just meant as a friendly comment, it wasn't intentionally offensive. Nor did she decide to ignore you or anything, and she really does appreciate the support you gave her, as do I. You are both absolute angels, it's was just poor wording. We are both really gonna miss you on here.
  • RiverRiver Community Connector Posts: 4,234 Community Veteran
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    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 1,028 Wise Owl
    River wrote: »
    Deleted it. Don’t know why I bother.

    @River you were just trying to be kind, and i'm so thankful for it. You are an angel. It was just poor wording
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