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  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    @eylah I'm glad your feeling better. How's the stomach pain? Did the pasta help at all with that?

    And night night fellow my twat duo. Have a lovely sleep if you can. And remember, i'm here if you wake up during the night or anything, or can't get to sleep still <3
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    TW: police
    police came over to my house today
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    TW: police
    police came over to my house today

    @toffuna101 Why? What happened if you don't mind me asking?
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    @DonnerKebab basically its because i called them saying i was going to harm myself and others.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    @toffuna101 i understand. I'm sorry that you've struggled and gotten to that point mentally. Do you want to talk a little bit about it. maybe why, or how it felt having them round. Are you okay now?

    My aunt did something similar claiming she had actually killed my grandad to the police though she hadn't during a mental breakdown from grief, though this was like 30 years ago before i was born and i don't know either of them. So i understand. There's no judgement friend.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    @toffuna101 i understand. I'm sorry that you've struggled and gotten to that point mentally. Do you want to talk a little bit about it. maybe why, or how it felt having them round. Are you okay now?

    My aunt did something similar claiming she had actually killed my grandad to the police though she hadn't during a mental breakdown from grief, though this was like 30 years ago before i was born and i don't know either of them. So i understand. There's no judgement friend.

    well the police visit itself was alright. they just asked me some questions. i was debating telling them that i committed a crime but i didnt commit any crime. i think its because i feel like i deserve to be locked up somewhere. @DonnerKebab
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 i understand. I'm sorry that you've struggled and gotten to that point mentally. Do you want to talk a little bit about it. maybe why, or how it felt having them round. Are you okay now?

    My aunt did something similar claiming she had actually killed my grandad to the police though she hadn't during a mental breakdown from grief, though this was like 30 years ago before i was born and i don't know either of them. So i understand. There's no judgement friend.

    well the police visit itself was alright. they just asked me some questions. i was debating telling them that i committed a crime but i didnt commit any crime. i think its because i feel like i deserve to be locked up somewhere. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 toffuna, i'm so so sorry your going through all this. You are such a sweet kind person, and it hurts to see you not giving yourself the same kindness you give others. You don't deserve to be locked up anywhere toffuna. I promise you that on my life. everything i said the other day, about you being a gem of a person with more kindness and maturity than 99% of people your age, is 100% true. And i'm proud of you for that.

    I'm glad they were alright with you with the visit. The only crime you've committed is not seeing how amazing of a person you are and how worthy of love and support you are. Please give yourself a massive hug from me toffuna.

    How were your parents with the visit?
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 i understand. I'm sorry that you've struggled and gotten to that point mentally. Do you want to talk a little bit about it. maybe why, or how it felt having them round. Are you okay now?

    My aunt did something similar claiming she had actually killed my grandad to the police though she hadn't during a mental breakdown from grief, though this was like 30 years ago before i was born and i don't know either of them. So i understand. There's no judgement friend.

    well the police visit itself was alright. they just asked me some questions. i was debating telling them that i committed a crime but i didnt commit any crime. i think its because i feel like i deserve to be locked up somewhere. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 toffuna, i'm so so sorry your going through all this. You are such a sweet kind person, and it hurts to see you not giving yourself the same kindness you give others. You don't deserve to be locked up anywhere toffuna. I promise you that on my life. everything i said the other day, about you being a gem of a person with more kindness and maturity than 99% of people your age, is 100% true. And i'm proud of you for that.

    I'm glad they were alright with you with the visit. The only crime you've committed is not seeing how amazing of a person you are and how worthy of love and support you are. Please give yourself a massive hug from me toffuna.

    How were your parents with the visit?

    my mum was pissed off but my dad understood
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    @toffuna101 i'm glad your dad was understanding, but I also understand your mums reaction. Have you been able to talk with them about getting extra support mental health wise? Maybe therapy or counselling? I know you mentioned that stuff with CAHMS, but it might be worth revisiting it with these circumstances changing the picture a bit.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    @toffuna101 i'm glad your dad was understanding, but I also understand your mums reaction. Have you been able to talk with them about getting extra support mental health wise? Maybe therapy or counselling? I know you mentioned that stuff with CAHMS, but it might be worth revisiting it with these circumstances changing the picture a bit.

    my therapy is stopping soon because i was doing so well. and now im not so. im still gonna have camhs but not therapy.
    i feel like i need to be sent to a psychiatric hospital again because im not doing well at all. its extremely hard to be sectioned in this country though so i doubt if i go to A&E it would go very far. @DonnerKebab
  • eylaheylah Posts: 7,955 Master Poster
    hello <3
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    hey @eylah how are you?
  • eylaheylah Posts: 7,955 Master Poster
    im very sunburnt & tired 😴
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • eylaheylah Posts: 7,955 Master Poster
    @eylah I'm glad your feeling better. How's the stomach pain? Did the pasta help at all with that?

    And night night fellow my twat duo. Have a lovely sleep if you can. And remember, i'm here if you wake up during the night or anything, or can't get to sleep still <3

    my stomach hurts 💔 and my brain hurts 💔
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    eylah wrote: »
    im very sunburnt & tired 😴

    its best to sleep tbh
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 i'm glad your dad was understanding, but I also understand your mums reaction. Have you been able to talk with them about getting extra support mental health wise? Maybe therapy or counselling? I know you mentioned that stuff with CAHMS, but it might be worth revisiting it with these circumstances changing the picture a bit.

    my therapy is stopping soon because i was doing so well. and now im not so. im still gonna have camhs but not therapy.
    i feel like i need to be sent to a psychiatric hospital again because im not doing well at all. its extremely hard to be sectioned in this country though so i doubt if i go to A&E it would go very far. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 they will try and avoid sectioning as much as they can as a matter of policy, but they will do forced sectioning if they think you need it, or try and convince you to do voluntary sectioning instead if needed. It depends on the person and their state. my uncle was in and out himself all the time. I'm so sorry it's gotten that bad for you that you feel this is what you need. But these are places that are there to help heal you, so don't think of it as a bad thing. Think of it as being no different than a cancer patient going to the hospital.

    And camhs will 100% see this incident, and will re-evaluate your current plan with them to factor in this incident from the ground up. The assumption which led them to end therapy that you were doing so well, will have been proven wrong, and they will reevaluate everything. Sectioning is possible, depending on how bad you are, but they will try anything but that. If they think your a risk to yourself and others, they will take action to section you though as a last resort.

    Sending you a virtual hug toffuna. You're an amazing person, you're just struggling to see that right now friend.
  • eylaheylah Posts: 7,955 Master Poster
    im not gonna lie if you’ve ever had severe sunburn you’d understand sleeping is not gonna help. especially when you’re crying in pain and can’t even lie on your sides or back.
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • eylaheylah Posts: 7,955 Master Poster
    so ‘sleeping’ won’t help me in this situation..
    ppl dont always need advice. sometimes all they rly need is a hand to hold. an ear to listen. and a heart to understand them. 🧸
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    edited 1:02AM
    @toffuna101 i'm glad your dad was understanding, but I also understand your mums reaction. Have you been able to talk with them about getting extra support mental health wise? Maybe therapy or counselling? I know you mentioned that stuff with CAHMS, but it might be worth revisiting it with these circumstances changing the picture a bit.

    my therapy is stopping soon because i was doing so well. and now im not so. im still gonna have camhs but not therapy.
    i feel like i need to be sent to a psychiatric hospital again because im not doing well at all. its extremely hard to be sectioned in this country though so i doubt if i go to A&E it would go very far. @DonnerKebab [/quote]

    @toffuna101 they will try and avoid sectioning as much as they can as a matter of policy, but they will do forced sectioning if they think you need it, or try and convince you to do voluntary sectioning instead if needed. It depends on the person and their state. my uncle was in and out himself all the time. I'm so sorry it's gotten that bad for you that you feel this is what you need. But these are places that are there to help heal you, so don't think of it as a bad thing. Think of it as being no different than a cancer patient going to the hospital.

    And camhs will 100% see this incident, and will re-evaluate your current plan with them to factor in this incident from the ground up. The assumption which led them to end therapy that you were doing so well, will have been proven wrong, and they will reevaluate everything. Sectioning is possible, depending on how bad you are, but they will try anything but that. If they think your a risk to yourself and others, they will take action to section you though as a last resort.

    Sending you a virtual hug toffuna. You're an amazing person, you're just struggling to see that right now friend.
    [/quote]

    thank you. yeah they take sectioning as a last resort because there are literally not many mental health beds available across the country.
    eylah wrote: »
    im not gonna lie if you’ve ever had severe sunburn you’d understand sleeping is not gonna help. especially when you’re crying in pain and can’t even lie on your sides or back.

    oh i see. just hang tight for now, maybe talking will help.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    oops i put that comment twice at the beginning. silly the mix
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    eylah wrote: »
    im not gonna lie if you’ve ever had severe sunburn you’d understand sleeping is not gonna help. especially when you’re crying in pain and can’t even lie on your sides or back.

    The only thing i can think of for severe sunburn is a cold shower, or a cold compress. Wet a towel, and drape it over any sunburnt area, and that will ease some of it. And tomorrow, try and get some aftersun cream, which can ease it a bit. I'm so sorry i can't offer any other advice or make the pain go away for you eylah.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    @toffuna101 you are right, it is a last resort. I mean, i'll just share this chart again showing how bad our mental health services are. But they will see the deteriorating situation for you, and will see there assessment was wrong and change it and provide therapy again, to avoid future sectioning, if only for cost and capacity. A therapist is cheaper and more available for them than a bed in a mental hospital. So you have the advantage of having therapy be the cheaper option for them. never underestimate the penny pinching of the UK's mental health services. Therapy is a guarantee from CAMHS now.

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  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    @toffuna101 you are right, it is a last resort. I mean, i'll just share this chart again showing how bad our mental health services are. But they will see the deteriorating situation for you, and will see there assessment was wrong and change it and provide therapy again, to avoid future sectioning, if only for cost and capacity. A therapist is cheaper and more available for them than a bed in a mental hospital. So you have the advantage of having therapy be the cheaper option for them. never underestimate the penny pinching of the UK's mental health services. Therapy is a guarantee from CAMHS now.

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    yeah i honestly doubt they will section me but if they do i guess i wont be posting on here for a while because i can only access the mix on my computer. @DonnerKebab but i dont know if my local mental hospital is full. the local one was the one that i went to. the problem is if its full then ill be moved to a different county which could potentially mean that id be on the other side of the country.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 you are right, it is a last resort. I mean, i'll just share this chart again showing how bad our mental health services are. But they will see the deteriorating situation for you, and will see there assessment was wrong and change it and provide therapy again, to avoid future sectioning, if only for cost and capacity. A therapist is cheaper and more available for them than a bed in a mental hospital. So you have the advantage of having therapy be the cheaper option for them. never underestimate the penny pinching of the UK's mental health services. Therapy is a guarantee from CAMHS now.

    a6nje8tq9btz.png

    yeah i honestly doubt they will section me but if they do i guess i wont be posting on here for a while because i can only access the mix on my computer. @DonnerKebab but i dont know if my local mental hospital is full. the local one was the one that i went to. the problem is if its full then ill be moved to a different county which could potentially mean that id be on the other side of the country.

    @toffuna101 I know it's a scary thing right now for you, but you have your mum and your dad always. They will drive a million miles to get you whenever it's needed, and you don't know if you'll even be sectioned. If you are not a risk to yourself and others right now, then they won't. Assuming they do, they will try and put you as close to your home as possible, so the most likely a neighbouring county if your local is full up.

    So, there's no guarantee of a sectioning, it would be cheaper for them to just give you therapy. Assuming they did section you, they'd try the local which may or may not be full, and assuming they are, they will move you to a neighbouring county. I know it's scary, but these are worst case scenarios. And if you are sectioned, don't worry about on here, just look after yourself my friend, and get back on when your better.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 you are right, it is a last resort. I mean, i'll just share this chart again showing how bad our mental health services are. But they will see the deteriorating situation for you, and will see there assessment was wrong and change it and provide therapy again, to avoid future sectioning, if only for cost and capacity. A therapist is cheaper and more available for them than a bed in a mental hospital. So you have the advantage of having therapy be the cheaper option for them. never underestimate the penny pinching of the UK's mental health services. Therapy is a guarantee from CAMHS now.

    a6nje8tq9btz.png

    yeah i honestly doubt they will section me but if they do i guess i wont be posting on here for a while because i can only access the mix on my computer. @DonnerKebab but i dont know if my local mental hospital is full. the local one was the one that i went to. the problem is if its full then ill be moved to a different county which could potentially mean that id be on the other side of the country.

    @toffuna101 I know it's a scary thing right now for you, but you have your mum and your dad always. They will drive a million miles to get you whenever it's needed, and you don't know if you'll even be sectioned. If you are not a risk to yourself and others right now, then they won't. Assuming they do, they will try and put you as close to your home as possible, so the most likely a neighbouring county if your local is full up.

    So, there's no guarantee of a sectioning, it would be cheaper for them to just give you therapy. Assuming they did section you, they'd try the local which may or may not be full, and assuming they are, they will move you to a neighbouring county. I know it's scary, but these are worst case scenarios. And if you are sectioned, don't worry about on here, just look after yourself my friend, and get back on when your better.

    alright. my local mental hospital might not be full because its summer time and generally people are less likely to get into crisis in those summer months. but yeah if its full theyll move me to a neighbouring county. @DonnerKebab
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    @toffuna101 I know it's scary for you, but remember, there is no guarantee they will resort to sectioning my friend. I'm so sorry your going through this all right now
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    @toffuna101 I know it's scary for you, but remember, there is no guarantee they will resort to sectioning my friend. I'm so sorry your going through this all right now

    yeah. its okay, you dont have to apologise. i hope they just give me therapy instead because i dont want to spend my summer in a psychiatric hospital. plus theyll be other patients there and theyll need treatment too. @DonnerKebab
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 I know it's scary for you, but remember, there is no guarantee they will resort to sectioning my friend. I'm so sorry your going through this all right now

    yeah. its okay, you dont have to apologise. i hope they just give me therapy instead because i dont want to spend my summer in a psychiatric hospital. plus theyll be other patients there and theyll need treatment too. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 as i say, i don't think they will because A - it's cheaper and easier to provide therapy than to section you, B - the police would have taken you in for a psychiatric evaluation if they thought you were a danger to yourself and others during there visit which is a requirement for sectioning, C - sectioning is an absolute last emergency resort, and D - there is far more capacity for therapy than there is for sectioning. All the factors all seem to be pointing in the direction of therapy rather than sectioning. I'm just sorry your suffering through this all. You're an amazing person, and you don't deserve to go through this struggle my friend.
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,831 Boards Guru
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 I know it's scary for you, but remember, there is no guarantee they will resort to sectioning my friend. I'm so sorry your going through this all right now

    yeah. its okay, you dont have to apologise. i hope they just give me therapy instead because i dont want to spend my summer in a psychiatric hospital. plus theyll be other patients there and theyll need treatment too. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 as i say, i don't think they will because A - it's cheaper and easier to provide therapy than to section you, B - the police would have taken you in for a psychiatric evaluation if they thought you were a danger to yourself and others during there visit which is a requirement for sectioning, C - sectioning is an absolute last emergency resort, and D - there is far more capacity for therapy than there is for sectioning. All the factors all seem to be pointing in the direction of therapy rather than sectioning. I'm just sorry your suffering through this all. You're an amazing person, and you don't deserve to go through this struggle my friend.

    yeah im kinda annoyed that i didnt ask them to send me to A&E and i cant get my dad to phone the police either because he just flat out refuses and tells me to calm down. he cant take me to A&E either because hes working today. my mum cant take me to A&E because she doesnt like going out. i feel like im just stuck honestly. the only option is to call 999, but if they send an ambulance out my dad would have to go with me because im under 18. and plus theyd send me somewhere outside of the county i live in since im in the border between london and essex. i live in hertfordshire. id have to call 999 through google mini since my mum confiscated my phone. i just want more than therapy. i have plans to do something to myself or others. @DonnerKebab
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 999 Part of The Mix Family
    edited 2:05AM
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    toffuna101 wrote: »
    @toffuna101 I know it's scary for you, but remember, there is no guarantee they will resort to sectioning my friend. I'm so sorry your going through this all right now

    yeah. its okay, you dont have to apologise. i hope they just give me therapy instead because i dont want to spend my summer in a psychiatric hospital. plus theyll be other patients there and theyll need treatment too. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 as i say, i don't think they will because A - it's cheaper and easier to provide therapy than to section you, B - the police would have taken you in for a psychiatric evaluation if they thought you were a danger to yourself and others during there visit which is a requirement for sectioning, C - sectioning is an absolute last emergency resort, and D - there is far more capacity for therapy than there is for sectioning. All the factors all seem to be pointing in the direction of therapy rather than sectioning. I'm just sorry your suffering through this all. You're an amazing person, and you don't deserve to go through this struggle my friend.

    yeah im kinda annoyed that i didnt ask them to send me to A&E and i cant get my dad to phone the police either because he just flat out refuses and tells me to calm down. he cant take me to A&E either because hes working today. my mum cant take me to A&E because she doesnt like going out. i feel like im just stuck honestly. the only option is to call 999, but if they send an ambulance out my dad would have to go with me because im under 18. and plus theyd send me somewhere outside of the county i live in since im in the border between london and essex. i live in hertfordshire. id have to call 999 through google mini since my mum confiscated my phone. i just want more than therapy. i have plans to do something to myself or others. @DonnerKebab

    @toffuna101 if you have plans to do something to yourself, and your mum and dad have refused to help outright, then call emergency services and get yourself help. You are an amazing person. They will send an ambulance, they will take you to hospital, and they will get you a psychiatrist to assess you. Only ring if you can't keep yourself safe okay. If it's because you want more than therapy, more support, then you can try and get a referral to a psychiatrist through different avenues. Ring only if you can't keep yourself safe or others.

    I'm so sorry you're at this stage my friend. Remember, you are an amazing person, truly one of the few gems in this world, and you deserve a world of kindness and care.
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