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Time to bring back the death penalty?
BillieTheBot
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Another week and another mass-murdering woman-hater gets sentenced to life imprisonment for a campaign of terror against innocent people. Having snatched lives away from so many people, they get to remain alive, in some comfort in prison. Like other murderers, they'll be out in 15 years, free to kill again.
Does anyone else agree that it is time to change that? Some people commit crimes so foul that they no longer deserve to be alive. Some people have committed crimes that strike so terribly at the heart of society that society should no longer have to pay to keep them fed and watered.
I'd like nothing more than to see people like Bellfield tortured to death, they should be killed just as they killed so many others. Yes, it has everything to do with revenge and no, I don't think the death penalty will lower the murder rate.
But what's wrong with revenge? Punishment of any sort for the crime of murder is about revenge, why not do it properly and make filth like Bellfield beg to die? Rather than put him up in prison for the rest of his life, get him waterboarded until he's begging to die and then eletrocute him. It's what he deserves.
Does anyone else agree that it is time to change that? Some people commit crimes so foul that they no longer deserve to be alive. Some people have committed crimes that strike so terribly at the heart of society that society should no longer have to pay to keep them fed and watered.
I'd like nothing more than to see people like Bellfield tortured to death, they should be killed just as they killed so many others. Yes, it has everything to do with revenge and no, I don't think the death penalty will lower the murder rate.
But what's wrong with revenge? Punishment of any sort for the crime of murder is about revenge, why not do it properly and make filth like Bellfield beg to die? Rather than put him up in prison for the rest of his life, get him waterboarded until he's begging to die and then eletrocute him. It's what he deserves.
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1. Mistrials.
2. More expensive.
3. Doesn't deter crime.
Have I missed anything?
More bizarre is the idea that we should put rape and child abuse alongside murder. If ever there was a reason to not only rape your victim, but then kill them and dispose of the body afterwards, it's putting rape up to the level of murder in sentencing.
If not, why not?
Same reason we lock up anyone - public safety and rehabilitation.
It prevents people who have already murdered from murdering again. Come on, you're a lawyer. Do you want the entire justice system explaining to you?
All my sympathy to the relatives of murder victims but highly emotional people in distress (understandable as their state might be) are not exactly the best judges on what sentencing should be fair.
The death penalty is as monstruous as the original crime. End of.
Just out of interest, I assume that you would also support the death penalty for the likes of Tony Martin?
That's what you should be campaigning for.
Executing a human being, regardless of what their crimes might have been, is never acceptable, and it is an abomination as despicable and barbaric as the very crimes it pretends to administer justice for.
then there's the chance of mistrials etc
it's also nice to know most serial killers try hanging themselves in prison so it's doing a good job of giving them a lifetime to think about what they done
stories like this help
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6707865.stm
If they're hanging from a gibbet they may also have trouble
That's probably the only good reason, but a clincher in it's own right
Not neccessarily true - it may not deter some, but it deters others.
He appealed his sentence and it was reduced to manslaughter. I've not heard of anybody calling for manslaughter to be a capital offence.
In principle there are certain cases where the death penalty is justified and in times of war the death penalty may be necessary. In practice in a civilian context I wouldn't want to bring it back.
Reading how the death penalty works in Japan/US I wouldn't like it back here. I'm sure that in this country as in Japan/US most people support it - but that doesn't mean it's right to bring it back.
I know that, but presumably before the appeal, he would've been happy for him to be given the death penalty pending appeal, since he was a convicted murderer at that point?
Perhaps a question you will answer then. Undoubtedly, any objective court with the death penalty would probably execute in similar circumstances. So what would you do as soon as there is someone executed for killing an intruder, and you disagree with it? Would we end up with you being against the death penalty? Or the death penalty only for people who you think deserve it? Because by supporting the death penalty, it's an absolute inevitability that you will be supporting the execution of someone who you don't think is deserving.
Actually we have already signed away our right to reintroduce it. All EU members have.
Yep, definitely a politician. It is really a simple question. Do you trust our justice system to deliver the death penalty only to those who you believe are deserving, and if not, then how can you support the death penalty?
Over the weekend, we found out that prisons all over the country are effectively stuffed to the rafters. "Not one prison cell to spare", shouted the Daily Mail's front page on Saturday, for instance. The Government knew years ago that prison numbers were going to rocket, and they did nothing. No long-term look at why so many people were being imprisoned, no attempt to build some new prisons just in case... and now look at what we've got. Meantime, there's the perception that crime is out of control, (fuelled by the newspapers? Only to an extent, I'd say) and the perception that criminals are laughing at the justice system. Given this pathetic set of circumstances, is it really any surprise that people are now talking about bringing back the ultimate punishment?
In a sense, the current system is actually more cruel. When a criminal is in prison for the rest of his life, (I say his, because most those doing life sentences seem to be men) it means there's no escape from what they're doing. Whereas with the death penalty, the only one who gets to judge their actions is... well, God if you're religious and no one if you're not.
for once, you say something i completely agree with.
the death penalty degrades society, and death is an easy way out. a life in solitary confinment is much harsher.
Death penalty would be the easy way out as well.
Exactly.
I don't know if this would be the same for other people, but I personally don't feel that the death penalty isn't 'justice'.