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It's quite weird.
TBH You know the answer and you have used it yourself. All the while that people liek Shipman, West, Huntley and Brady would rather commit suicide that spend their life behind bars any consideration of the death penalty becomes redundant.
And at what point does somebody deserve to die?
Where do we draw the line?
It depends on what you call revenge. I don't think it makes you any better that you'd want to hurt a man as much as he hurt somebody else. It makes you a 'monster' like him.
The death penalty is exploitable, I don't trust our government to have that much power. We've also moved on from the dark ages somewhat... Or are you calling for public floggings now too?
Although if the OP is a rhetorical question Kermit, I worry that your opinion on the subject can change from anti-death penalty (as I believe you were in fairly recent posts, for precicely the reasons that everyone has mentioned) to pro-death penalty on the basis of a couple of horrific cases. The same arguments occur now as occured last week.
i'd rather they lingered in jail having people look at you like a piece of shit for the rest off your life until you die a old cold lonely death
Someone facing a 15 year sentence might be a little more upset at the situation they've found themselves in.
I take it you've been to prison then?
It doesn't sound nice to me... My mate was caught dealing (or more accurately, being the wrong dealer in a club and not having enough to pay the police1) and ended up being sent to juvie as she was younger then (or I think, somehow got in there and a shorter sentence, probably because her family are very middle class, but I think also that she was done for posession in the end2)... She hated it and not only that, her whole life was f*cked. Her entire career!
She was going to go in to biochemistry as she's extremely academic. Now what the hell is she going to do? Every job application form she fills in she'll have to state her offence and she'll have trouble travelling. For a lot of people who commit crimes (and who get arrested), their life has basically ended and their freedom is still taken away anyway, even after they've finished their prison term.
I am not sympathising with rapists or murderers, I just think that a lot of people have a very funny view of prison being a happy camp and then people leave after several years and carry on as normal.
1. Before anybody accuses me of lying... This does happen... Trust me
2. This happens too, allegedly more frequent in the States?
Prisons are not nice places, a serving police officer should know that.
So does hanging.
I don't think Timothy McVeigh will be murdering anyone in the forseeable future, do you?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0188626/
They're obviously not that horrible or people wouldn't be so keen to get back in them.
I've never been in a prison, but dealing with some of the people I have been dealing with recently, it's absolutely no deterrent to them, they seem eager to get back in, or they wouldn't maraude the streets robbing people and smashing stuff up.
Absolutely no one regardless of their crimes deserves what goes on in some US supermax prisons. Beatings, torture and god knows what else are all totally routine.
It makes no difference what someone has done, they are still a human and deserve at least vaguely humane treatment. Otherwise we are sectioning them off as less than human, at which point why dont we test dangerous drugs on them, or make them fight each other to the death for public entertainment. If we are to call ourselves a civilised society we need to treat even the worst of us humanely.
Agreed. None of this "congratuwelldone, you've been a good little boy. Now go out and make sure you don't go raping those children in the suburb with the primary school next door to you *chuckle* Oh, what a good man."
Why we hate him? - because he is murder, then why we have to become one that we hate?
My answer is no...
And I am proud there is no death penalty in my country
Oh come on, I've made tonnes of points on this thread, and that's the best you can come up with? Like I said, not a single convincing argument on your side Kermit, and you know it.
On the other hand,peados,rapists and murderers are a waste of space and why should we bother keeping them alive?
The only real way that will help a bit is to make prisons something to be feared.None of this cushty sky tv,plasma screens,central heating and playstations.Prison is meant to be a punishment with cold showers,gruel and the only entertainment a book or something.Locked up in cold cells all day apart form 2 15 minute outside time or something.
The way prisons are nowadays they seem more like a reward to criminals than a punishment,and the best part is we pay for their luxuries!!
Do you have any idea at all what prisons are like?
Clearly.
Prison is only a deterrent to those who have something to lose. It always has been and always will be.
Mass murderers don't think they'll get caught and petty thugs and thieves have nothing to lose by getting caught.
Nor that money should be a factor when considering whether to kill a human being of course.
Once it it proven without a doubt then why not just take them out and shoot them, fuck appeals like the states where people try to get it lowered to life,
And that's just one example of many.
You don't want them to have personal information about you...store your DNA or intercept your emails but ...it's ok for them to have the power to kill you.
But you still support the death penalty? Sure Mr deMenezes was a terrorist who was going to blow half of London up before we stopped him...right? :chin:
So why aint there half a dozen coppers swinging from a beam?