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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've realised I'm suffering from depression for the second time in my life nad it's fucking horrible.

    I'm desperate to meet someone and have a relationship with a girl I'd like and who likes me. This is proving to be pretty impossible and I seem to have resigned myself to the fact it's not going to happen for me.

    I'm not just after getting my end away, I just want to be with someone and have someone there and be able to spoil someone and have someone feel the same about me.

    I guess I'm just lonely which is a hard thing to admit and it really isn't a nice feeling but I've never experienced anything else.

    This alone has been getting me down and I don't think I've experienced real happiness since I was a kid when priorities were different and the best things in life were things like playing football with mates etc.

    Also, recently, my family has been suffering financially and my Dad has been unable to pay his council tax bill which has meant that we've had threatening letters from the bayliffs who, should the bill not be paid, will come and remove our valuable possesssions next week.

    The bill is for just over £1,000 and my Dad has no chance of paying it as his job basically only covers other bills with a little bit left to live on. For this reason, I've been forced to help out and as of Thursday, will have given him £1,000 out of the £1,600 ish I've earned in the past two months from my job.

    There really isn't any pleasure to be taken from seeing your bank balance on pay day and then having to draw the maximum you can out of the bank to give to someone else knowing full well you aren't going to get it back.

    Because of this situation, I've also had to pay other bills in this house while my bone idle sister lives here and spends everything she earns on herself. I asked her very nicely if she could help with matters and give Dad some money and she said she would, I gave him £600 which will now rise to £1,000 on Thursday and she gave him £40 (forty).

    I'm skint and been unable to spend much on myself at all. There are things I'm desperate for but have been having to wait for as my family's financial state must come first.

    I still go to watch my team play football every week but do that by having generous mates who dont charge much for petrol money and I'll sometimes get free tickets or scam myself in as a kid (I'm 22 but still manage to pass as a 16 year old at some grounds).

    Yesterday I took my place in the away end at Hereford and having spent the entire journey there listening to my two best friends snogging, I wasn't feeling too chirpy.

    Then, the girl I've fancied for ages comes and stands next to us in the stands and I realise (while glancing uncontrollably at her in awe of her) that San Marino will win the World Cup before someone that amazing would ever like me back (for the non football fans, thats as likely as a comet coming and destroying the world during the ad break on Corrie tonight).

    This then put me in a very low state of mind for the rest of the day. I then went out with a mate to a club and got completely wasted, tried it on with every girl in the club, got knocked back each time and got a lift back. I asked to be dropped off about a mile from my house so I could have a walk home and at one point very nearly stepped out in front of a taxi that was racing past as I'd pretty much had enough of life but bottled out at the last second.

    This forum is pretty much the only place I've let these feelings out on.

    I really do feel like shit and every second of the day I have this gutted feeling in my stomach and am constantly holding back tears :crying:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry to hear that.:(

    I can't stop cutting myself and just now and had a problem with one of the wounds I made last night. (It stuck to the tubigrip and bled when I took it off) :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    need to cut so much

    why cant i cope

    really wish i wasnt me im so useless
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Franki wrote: »
    Everything is poo.

    I'm going to fail.

    Being constantly close to tears is not a nice feeling.

    Bugger it.

    It's annoying me even more that I want to do SOMETHING but I don't want to do anything really bad like burning myself, but that I appear to have mislaid my fucking arsing wanking compass :grump:.

    Your not going to fail, I know the IB is hard but you are capable of doing it. Being close to tears is a crap feeling, even worse when you have it at work. I say to this everyone but it does help: elastic band round the wrist: ping to death. It hurts like fuck but it doesnt break the skin.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Your not going to fail, I know the IB is hard but you are capable of doing it. Being close to tears is a crap feeling, even worse when you have it at work. I say to this everyone but it does help: elastic band round the wrist: ping to death. It hurts like fuck but it doesnt break the skin.
    I am though. Because I have no motivation and right now I feel shitter than a great big pile of festering shit, and not even because of the IB, because of other things. And I'm taking it out on other people and it's not fair but it's either that or let everything out in a great big mess of tears and pain and not-niceness.

    I would do the elastic band thing, but right now I want to see it. I want something to show for it, because I want to see that I've punished myself and I want it to be a reminder that I am a fucking stupid idiot that's not capable of anything.

    Meh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :crying: Why is it that when thngs seem to be going ok, they stop be ok and start feeling bad again.

    I have only self harmed once in 2 1/2 years (ish) but recently its all that I can think about. Its not that I want to do it, cos i really dont, but its feels like i havent got a decision really..if that makes any sense.

    I thought i was coping ok, but now it really feels like im not. Nothing I can do is giving me that feeling thats tells me things will be ok, but I know that if that happens i will feel even more messed up than i do now. But at the time, i will feel better, but then all the shame and guilt will happen again.

    But little things like just having an itch and scratching it, can make me think.. and can be easily explained. If i did do anything tho, i tink they're so many risks.. it could cause too much trouble and hurt if anyone at work found out or if college did (and i know tht you might think that unless I tell them they wont, but its not like that..) then there is my boyfriend and close family that i'd be letting down, and even if they didnt know, i'd still have the guilt and i'd still know that i'd be letting them down and hurting them.

    I dont think that this is making much sense, sorry, it isn't to me either :banghead:

    Hope that everyone is ok and doing well.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :crying: Why is it that when thngs seem to be going ok, they stop be ok and start feeling bad again.

    I have only self harmed once in 2 1/2 years (ish) but recently its all that I can think about. Its not that I want to do it, cos i really dont, but its feels like i havent got a decision really..if that makes any sense.

    I thought i was coping ok, but now it really feels like im not. Nothing I can do is giving me that feeling thats tells me things will be ok, but I know that if that happens i will feel even more messed up than i do now. But at the time, i will feel better, but then all the shame and guilt will happen again.

    But little things like just having an itch and scratching it, can make me think.. and can be easily explained. If i did do anything tho, i tink they're so many risks.. it could cause too much trouble and hurt if anyone at work found out or if college did (and i know tht you might think that unless I tell them they wont, but its not like that..) then there is my boyfriend and close family that i'd be letting down, and even if they didnt know, i'd still have the guilt and i'd still know that i'd be letting them down and hurting them.

    I dont think that this is making much sense, sorry, it isn't to me either :banghead:

    Hope that everyone is ok and doing well.

    please dont harm-dont let yourself be pulled into the "feeling better" thing-it only lasts a small amount of time-suddenly it will escalate into something you wish you'd never started-into hating the fact that you need to rrely on harming yourself to feel better for those few minutes before the guilt and self-hatred kicks in and you feel bad again and want to do it all over again-dont think about lettting other people down i know this may sound like being selfish but you need to think of you at this point and think what else can i do to cope-please talk to someone and i hope you feel better very soon

    take care and sorry for the long message

    xxx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi Sparky_Star,

    I feel exactly the same way.

    I have never deliberately cut myself but I have really felt the urge to do it recently.

    Like you, I don't really want to self harm, but I feel there is nothing else I can do to make myself feel better. I just want to express something and release and at the moment it feels like putting a knife to my arms or legs is the only way.

    Currently, I am only scratching and pinching myself.

    I know it's hard, but I stop myself by thinking of the aftermath. It will solve nothing and just make my problems worse..
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    BarmyArmy wrote: »
    I've realised I'm suffering from depression for the second time in my life nad it's fucking horrible.

    I'm desperate to meet someone and have a relationship with a girl I'd like and who likes me. This is proving to be pretty impossible and I seem to have resigned myself to the fact it's not going to happen for me.

    I'm not just after getting my end away, I just want to be with someone and have someone there and be able to spoil someone and have someone feel the same about me.

    I guess I'm just lonely which is a hard thing to admit and it really isn't a nice feeling but I've never experienced anything else.

    This alone has been getting me down and I don't think I've experienced real happiness since I was a kid when priorities were different and the best things in life were things like playing football with mates etc.

    Also, recently, my family has been suffering financially and my Dad has been unable to pay his council tax bill which has meant that we've had threatening letters from the bayliffs who, should the bill not be paid, will come and remove our valuable possesssions next week.

    The bill is for just over £1,000 and my Dad has no chance of paying it as his job basically only covers other bills with a little bit left to live on. For this reason, I've been forced to help out and as of Thursday, will have given him £1,000 out of the £1,600 ish I've earned in the past two months from my job.

    There really isn't any pleasure to be taken from seeing your bank balance on pay day and then having to draw the maximum you can out of the bank to give to someone else knowing full well you aren't going to get it back.

    Because of this situation, I've also had to pay other bills in this house while my bone idle sister lives here and spends everything she earns on herself. I asked her very nicely if she could help with matters and give Dad some money and she said she would, I gave him £600 which will now rise to £1,000 on Thursday and she gave him £40 (forty).

    I'm skint and been unable to spend much on myself at all. There are things I'm desperate for but have been having to wait for as my family's financial state must come first.

    I still go to watch my team play football every week but do that by having generous mates who dont charge much for petrol money and I'll sometimes get free tickets or scam myself in as a kid (I'm 22 but still manage to pass as a 16 year old at some grounds).

    Yesterday I took my place in the away end at Hereford and having spent the entire journey there listening to my two best friends snogging, I wasn't feeling too chirpy.

    Then, the girl I've fancied for ages comes and stands next to us in the stands and I realise (while glancing uncontrollably at her in awe of her) that San Marino will win the World Cup before someone that amazing would ever like me back (for the non football fans, thats as likely as a comet coming and destroying the world during the ad break on Corrie tonight).

    This then put me in a very low state of mind for the rest of the day. I then went out with a mate to a club and got completely wasted, tried it on with every girl in the club, got knocked back each time and got a lift back. I asked to be dropped off about a mile from my house so I could have a walk home and at one point very nearly stepped out in front of a taxi that was racing past as I'd pretty much had enough of life but bottled out at the last second.

    This forum is pretty much the only place I've let these feelings out on.

    I really do feel like shit and every second of the day I have this gutted feeling in my stomach and am constantly holding back tears :crying:

    I've woken up today in exactly the same mood as I was in yesterday, only worse because little things like having no food in the cupboards, fridge or freezer are winding me up.

    I even spent most of last night hoping I wouldn't even wake up today.

    I can't go back to my GP though, I've known him for years and he'll more than likely just think I'm over-reacting and think I'm doing it for attention.

    I'm just waiting for the bayliffs to come knocking, they said they would be doing this week so the curtains remain closed, the doors locked with a note on the inside of the front door instructing that no-one answer the door to anyone just to be safe. As usual, there are 6 messages on the answer phone because we're too scared to answer it.

    This is completely shit.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks for your replies..

    I know that if I did self harm again, I know that the feeling it gives/gave me wouldn't last, but when I can be rational, I can tell you every single reason why I shouldn't do it, but then when i can't be rational, i can tell you exactly why I should, but I suppose the good thing is, is that I haven't.

    When you feel that everything is hard, and that its going wrong, or when you feel that you'v let your self down, and just aren't good enough, when you just cant control or understand your feelings, thats where self harm comes in. It gives me control (even tho it doesn't) its gives me a feeling that I understand and can to an extent cope with. It gives me a feeling that says "everything will be ok now" even tho I know that everything wont be ok.

    hyper person I know just what you mean about being pulled in to the "feeling better" thing, as I have been there so many times before.

    I guess I wish I could just understand why I feel like this..there has been no real changes to my life, nothing is going wrong, and I haven't changed jobs/home or anything like that. I think the hardest part is that because I cant understand why I feel like this, I find it difficult to deal with.

    Thank You for replying to me, and reminding me that i'm not the only one..
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    BarmyArmy wrote: »
    I've woken up today in exactly the same mood as I was in yesterday, only worse because little things like having no food in the cupboards, fridge or freezer are winding me up.

    I even spent most of last night hoping I wouldn't even wake up today.

    I can't go back to my GP though, I've known him for years and he'll more than likely just think I'm over-reacting and think I'm doing it for attention.

    I'm just waiting for the bayliffs to come knocking, they said they would be doing this week so the curtains remain closed, the doors locked with a note on the inside of the front door instructing that no-one answer the door to anyone just to be safe. As usual, there are 6 messages on the answer phone because we're too scared to answer it.

    This is completely shit.

    Go to another Dr. at your surgery then, you shouldnt just have to see your GP, you should be able to see anyone. And a GP thats think depression/self harming is done for attention seeking annoys the hell out of me. As for the money problems have you been to the CAB or contacted one of the many debt charities to see if they can help you in anyway? GWST works for one and if you PM her she might give you some numbers to contact.

    It might seem shit at the moment, but it should get better. But do have to pro-active and not bury your head in the snad to ignore problems as they only get worse. I know that sounds harsh, but its the truth.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Go to another Dr. at your surgery then, you shouldnt just have to see your GP, you should be able to see anyone. And a GP thats think depression/self harming is done for attention seeking annoys the hell out of me.

    Well said! Surely any GP would have some sort of knowledge and know that people who self harm aren' doing it for attention and most (including me) try to hide their scars?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    scared-got to go back to counsellor tomorrow-scared to go back-scared to expose how rubbish i am and feel like ive let everyoine down again-scared of expressing how i feel-admitting that im rubbish-knowing it already deepdown inside-sorry
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    scared-got to go back to counsellor tomorrow-scared to go back-scared to expose how rubbish i am and feel like ive let everyoine down again-scared of expressing how i feel-admitting that im rubbish-knowing it already deepdown inside-sorry

    Sorry to hear that. There's no need for you to keep on apologising - I'm sure there are many people out there who are in your situation.

    Does anyone know if there's anything I can do speed up one of my wounds getting a scab? I need one on it so that I can wear a bandage (to stop my jumper rubbing against it) without it sticking like it did last night.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sofie wrote: »
    Well said! Surely any GP would have some sort of knowledge and know that people who self harm aren' doing it for attention and most (including me) try to hide their scars?

    The one and only time I went, I was told I had mild depression (my problems are a little more complex then that) and put on Prozac. I didnt bother going back. Some are more sensitive then others to the issues of depression/self-harm. If one doesnt help see another one. Be more open and tell them everything, as they are more likely to help if you can tell them what/when/wheres of your feelings etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    scared-got to go back to counsellor tomorrow-scared to go back-scared to expose how rubbish i am and feel like ive let everyoine down again-scared of expressing how i feel-admitting that im rubbish-knowing it already deepdown inside-sorry

    I agree with Sophie, you dont need to keep apolgising, the point of this thread to share your fellings and get support from others who have been through the same situation. Counselling can be painful for you, it will bring up a lot of painful memories/feelings etc, but by discussing them and learning to cope it makes you a lot stronger.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sofie wrote: »
    Does anyone know if there's anything I can do speed up one of my wounds getting a scab? I need one on it so that I can wear a bandage (to stop my jumper rubbing against it) without it sticking like it did last night.

    Hey, I've found that using aloe vera gel really works, makes them heal much quicker. You can get it in Holland and Barret, you know the one that sells all the vitamins and dried fruit. You can probably get it in boots or somewhere like that but I don't know if its the pure stuff. Hope you're ok and it helps, take care xx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dont feel like im getting anywhere with it though-i just keep going back to my harming-back to what people hate about me-to what lets me cope
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Liv wrote: »
    Hey, I've found that using aloe vera gel really works, makes them heal much quicker. You can get it in Holland and Barret, you know the one that sells all the vitamins and dried fruit. You can probably get it in boots or somewhere like that but I don't know if its the pure stuff. Hope you're ok and it helps, take care xx

    Never tried that but I used to get a Vitamin E capusle and break that with a oin and leave put the contents onto the scars over night which helps the heal quicker and much less obvious, you gan get them quite cheaply in boots/health stores. I now use Palmers Scar Serum which is fantastic for healing/preventing scaring, buts its not cheap.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Another counselling session this Wednesday. So how have I done this month... people on my friends list on LJ feel free to read a newly done entry. Others that can't see LJ- I feel shit, other problems are getting me down BIG time.

    I tried going to the gym. Twice today- to see if it helps me, shift some stress/anger/depression. I should be so lucky.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dont feel like im getting anywhere with it though-i just keep going back to my harming-back to what people hate about me-to what lets me cope

    There may be a couple of things to consider: How long you've been having treatment as it can take a while to help, or that you may need another type of theapy instead.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    your-babe wrote: »
    Another counselling session this Wednesday. So how have I done this month... people on my friends list on LJ feel free to read a newly done entry. Others that can't see LJ- I feel shit, other problems are getting me down BIG time.

    I tried going to the gym. Twice today- to see if it helps me, shift some stress/anger/depression. I should be so lucky.

    At least you tried with the gym. Shit times are that: shit, it cant stay that way forever. Go to couselling and let everything out. *massive hugs* xx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    At least you tried with the gym. Shit times are that: shit, it cant stay that way forever. Go to couselling and let everything out. *massive hugs* xx

    Thankyou, just feel so unmotivated and it's REALLY annoying me. xx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    your-babe wrote: »
    Thankyou, just feel so unmotivated and it's REALLY annoying me. xx

    I know how you feel. No motivation is crap. I'm currently suffering from a severe case of it where my job is concened, I hate it soo much I have to drag myself out of bed just to get there and then spend most of the day arsing about because I'm so bored and unchallenged nowdays. I miss being at college. I know I hated it because of the others on my course but at least it got my brain working.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Go to another Dr. at your surgery then, you shouldnt just have to see your GP, you should be able to see anyone. And a GP thats think depression/self harming is done for attention seeking annoys the hell out of me. As for the money problems have you been to the CAB or contacted one of the many debt charities to see if they can help you in anyway? GWST works for one and if you PM her she might give you some numbers to contact.

    It might seem shit at the moment, but it should get better. But do have to pro-active and not bury your head in the snad to ignore problems as they only get worse. I know that sounds harsh, but its the truth.

    The money troubles should be over for me after Thursday when I, AGAIN, bail him out of the shit leaving myself out of pocket.

    I'm the one who is actually facing up to it, he's the one refusing to accept the letters coming and refusing to admit that we can't afford the house we live in.

    I shouldn't have to do this, it's his department, I shouldn't have to be worrying about these things.

    Thanks for the advice though, I do appreciate it.

    Having been to the doctors before with it, the sheer fact I had to do it in the first place made me feel like a complete failure and it was soooooo embarrassing to tell someone you feel depressed. You starting doubting yourself and wondering if you are actually depressed and whether it's worth the hassle of actually telling someone, even if it's just the doctor.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know how you feel. No motivation is crap. I'm currently suffering from a severe case of it where my job is concened, I hate it soo much I have to drag myself out of bed just to get there and then spend most of the day arsing about because I'm so bored and unchallenged nowdays. I miss being at college. I know I hated it because of the others on my course but at least it got my brain working.

    Aww, sorry to hear that Marie.

    I'm determined to do something useflu today, I'm at the gym now, so shall see how motivated I can get!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm losing the will to live. And I have so much work to do. Death.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    im cracking up-i dont know what to do-i know im worthless and only worth being used and hurt but i dont want to feel like this-i just want it all to be over-just want to end it all
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    im cracking up-i dont know what to do-i know im worthless and only worth being used and hurt but i dont want to feel like this-i just want it all to be over-just want to end it all

    :( Really sorry to hear about this. is there anyone you can talk to about this?

    I'm really confused now - sometimes I can be happy(ish, anyway) adn then next all I want to do is cut myself. Anyone have any ideas why?
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