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Knee High Stripy Socks wrote:
I was wondering why Steve Irwin had feminist mouths.
Shes lots of things. Why did you choose feminist?
Why didnt you say 67 year old, or why didnt you just say Germaine Greer?
I'm With Stupid wrote:
Well it's no different from saying "Muslim leader says....." for something that isn't a religious issue. Thier religious beliefs might not be relevant to the issue, but if that is one of the defining characteristics of their public image, then journalists will refer to them using that characteristic.
Yes I think we're familiar with The Female Eunuch. What we're asking is, HOW is her being a feminist relevant to her views on Steve Irwin?
It matters to me because I'm a feminist and headlines like that are a clear attempt to demonise and discredit all feminists by associating Greer's views on the death of a well-liked public figure with the feminist movement. It's not relevant, at all, anymore than mentioning her sex or her sexuality or her age or her religion or her ethnicity would be. She's speaking in her capacity as Germaine Greer, author, academic and social critic, not Germaine Greer, feminist.
Anyway, I've already said what I think about her views. I liked Steve Irwin a lot, and I think Germaine has been tactless and insensitive with this, especially so soon after his death. BUT she's got a point with a lot of the comments she made. Read the Guardian article, I think she's right about him not always treating the animals with the respect and caution they deserve. Well, clearly she's right, because look what's happened.
Well it would be relevant if he was talking of something which effects all Moslems (or which they claim do), for example the Iraq war. But if he said something about Irwin which was his personal views rather than on behalf of the Moslem community (or the portion he would claim to represent) why would you say 'Moslem leader'
I'm not and to be honest I'd rather have blunt nails hammered through my eyeballs than have to read it, but I agree with the sentiment.
It's fine because I'm off now anyway.
what a fucking bitch!
I'm With Stupid wrote:
The paragraph I read was quite funny actually. What? Hey I was doing a course on film studies and it was only in the suggested reading, not the required reading.
Students today... when I was at Uni getting us to read the required reading was next to impossible, the suggested reading was never touched. You'll be saying that you used to get your essays in on time next
Totally different incidentally because the Pope is leader of the Catholic church and can be assumed to be speaking in behalf of the catholic church. Germaine Greer is not speaking on behalf of feminism.
She is a femenist. If I wrote the same title but used "women" instead, would you be asking how its relivant to her views?
Well yes, because that would be grammatically incorrect too.
Greer is a feminist, but that doesn't mean all her opinions are what feminists think, and that doesn't mean she can't have other opinions outside of this.
I happen to think that she's got a point with what she says, and that, whilst it's a bit lacking in tact to say it two days after his death, I respect the fact that she doesn't piss about and worry what people think of her.
The fact that she is a feminist is irrelevant for any intelligent and sensible person, but sadly you are neither. You just hate to think that a woman has an opinion on anything, don't you?
i love feminists (of the cute sexy lesbian/bi kind)
This isn't about targeting feminist. If I was well known as say a top footballer, then a headline like "top footballer speaks out" would be as appropriate title.
Yes you go back to "what a fucking bitch!"
What a fascinating thread that will be.