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FAO those who think Israel's actions have been justified & proportioned

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hizbollah have built schools, hospitals, roads etc. Same as Hamas have done. Part of the problem is the failure of the state to provide for people so these groups have done it. They have massive support and not just from Muslims. To just say that they hide behind civilians is a very very simplistic reading of the situation.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well that's Luke for you. He will claim on his next visit that Hezbollah was "hiding weapons" or "hiding themselves" in an entire Beirut neighbourhood.

    The boy is beyond help.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Clan - Calling people Nazi's is a pretty daft debating tactic btw.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What do you call people who make apology for purposed agendas of ethnocidal crimes against humanity?

    It wasn't a matter of debate but application of clear consistent principle. Can't condemn one group and not another for each one's self assumed exceptionalistic right to slaughter innocents by calling them "terrorists" or "enemies" or by some presumed divine dispensation.

    The truth hurts.
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Stalin's Organist Posts: 13,327
    The Nazis did a little more than Israel has done sofar.

    Thier agenda does seem the same though. However, Israel isn't putting it all into practice thankfully.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That you find admonitions to reexamine your clearly duplicitous moral and political principles "boring" only reinforces the self-absorbed ideological entrenchment for which most here have come to recognise you and your routine apologies for crimes against humanity.

    As for the rest of your blather, we can recall those points being adressed and dismissed for the nonsense they are not that long ago, with additional admonition for you to refrain from making untrue assertions which have no place in P&D.

    Nothing you claim at this point has much credibility or academic merit frankly.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Utter bollocks. But then unsurprising from someone like you.

    So you're trying to say there are no Jewish Supremacists in this entire earth? Utter bollocks in itself. There are many.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin, is hezzbollah behaving badly?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    Aladdin, is hezzbollah behaving badly?
    compared to who?
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Stalin's Organist Posts: 13,327
    compared to who?
    Compared to Israel, they are saints.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Let us once again recall that until Israel brutally invaded and occupied Southern Lebanon under Begin (with subsequent orchestration of the Sabra and Shatilla massacres under Sharon's command) there was no Hezbollah. Those who are the true victims of generations of purposed Zionist ideology-led state tyranny, daily atrocity and grasping expansionist intent have every legitimate right to fight back against such institutionalised evil, thus Hezbollah was born as the only viable resistance capable of driving Israel out of Lebanon at the time.

    Israel's current path and actions have only renewed overwhelming support for Hezbollah across ethnic lines throughout Lebanon, where previously it had been steadily declining. Nothing like blind racist militarism to undermine what could have been better achieved by actually respecting international law, however novel that might have been for the state of Israel.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    Aladdin, is hezzbollah behaving badly?
    Yes. They shouldn't target civilians. Even if the other side is doing so.

    They should target as many IDF soldiers as possible though. And they should be provided with the best and most modern missiles money can buy so they can do so safely and avoiding civilians.

    The Israelis are capable of that, but they're not interested. They'd rather slaughter countless innocents and destroy whole villages.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Somehow I'm not surprised that you love pictures of entire neighbourhoods being destroyed and the bodies of children being lined up.
    A surprise for you, I don't like what is happening. Hezbollah on the other hand, allows innocents to be killed, use the media to their advantage, they fool people like you who see them as a saint compared to Israel.
    It is evident that you're anti semitic.

    Remember who started these waves of attacks. Hezbollah invaded Israel, kinapped, fired rockets and used the media to their advantage. You seem top forget the facts of all this. You prefer to use Hezbollah propaganda to fund your anti semitism.
    Furthermore, it is Hezbollah that wishes to destroy Israel, to destroy Jews, westerners (remember, that applies to me and you, ironically, you don't say anything about this), Christans will be next.
    With policies like this, I support Israel 110%

    I'll continue to support those who prefer freedom, democracy and ever lasting peace, not those who wish to wipe countries off the map, build nuclears and religious nutcases.

    You have so much faith in hezbollah. Of coursethem pretty nice people would never planet bombs in civilian areas. They're nice terrorists.

    Instead of covering themselves up and hiding behinde civilians why don't they fight Israel like real men.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Hizbollah have built schools, hospitals, roads etc. Same as Hamas have done. Part of the problem is the failure of the state to provide for people so these groups have done it. They have massive support and not just from Muslims. To just say that they hide behind civilians is a very very simplistic reading of the situation.
    Wow, that's nice of them. Like the Israel government which builds schools and hospitals for their population. :rolleyes:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Wow, that's nice of them. Like the Israel government which builds schools and hospitals for their population. :rolleyes:

    I think you missed the point.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Well that's Luke for you. He will claim on his next visit that Hezbollah was "hiding weapons" or "hiding themselves" in an entire Beirut neighbourhood.

    The boy is beyond help.
    They are capable of using children as suicide bombers, to go out and directly kill innocents.

    Yes Hezbollah are hiding weapans, they do hang in civilian areas for the reason to grab peoples attensions like yours. To fool people like you. the media is quickly to inform the world of Israel killing xx civilians and this is hezbollahs plan. Oh they always fool the fools.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Hezbollah invaded Israel,

    Do you know why Hezbollah was originally formed?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    Compared to Israel, they are saints.
    Wishing to wipe a country off the map? Wishing to harm innocent Israelis and Jews? To fire rockets in a deliberate attempt to provoke war...

    Hezbollah saints? You must be having a laugh!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Do you know why Hezbollah was originally formed?
    Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000. What a silly thing for israel to do since it has given this evil 6 years to arm it's self again and cause more war.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Yes. They shouldn't target civilians. Even if the other side is doing so.

    They should target as many IDF soldiers as possible though. And they should be provided with the best and most modern missiles money can buy so they can do so safely and avoiding civilians.
    LOL. You don't know what Hezbollahs agenda is do you? They intensionally kill civilians. :crazyeyes Why would they want technology to avoid civilians?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000. What a silly thing for israel to do since it has given this evil 6 years to arm it's self again and cause more war.

    I notice you didn't answer the question. You also failed to note the regular Israeli incursions into Lebanese territory post 2000.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    LOL. You don't know what Hezbollahs agenda is do you? They intensionally kill civilians. :crazyeyes Why would they want technology to avoid civilians?

    The Israeli's also intentionally target civilians.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    A surprise for you, I don't like what is happening. Hezbollah on the other hand, allows innocents to be killed, use the media to their advantage, they fool people like you who see them as a saint compared to Israel.
    Don't change the subject. You've said Israel doesn't attack civilians on purpose. The pictures prove otherwise and you know. Admit it or shut it.
    It is evident that you're anti semitic.
    Fuck off and stick that accusation up your fucking arse.
    Remember who started these waves of attacks. Hezbollah invaded Israel, kinapped, fired rockets and used the media to their advantage.
    Wrong.
    You seem top forget the facts of all this. You prefer to use Hezbollah propaganda to fund your anti semitism.
    You can stick your 'anti semitism' remarks up your fucking arse- if there's still room.
    Furthermore, it is Hezbollah that wishes to destroy Israel, to destroy Jews, westerners (remember, that applies to me and you, ironically, you don't say anything about this), Christans will be next.
    Oh yeah? That'd be why a large proportion of Hezbollah members are Christians and why Lebanon boasts more Christians than any other nation in the ME.

    You truly are entirely clueless aren't you?

    I'll continue to support those who prefer freedom, democracy and ever lasting peace, not those who wish to wipe countries off the map, build nuclears and religious nutcases.
    So why do you support a government that murders innocent women and children on purpose, invades and occupies every other nation in its vicinity, believes the whole land in the area belongs to it by Divine Decree and has hundreds of nuclear weapons as well as stockpiles of chemical and biological warheads?
    You have so much faith in hezbollah. Of coursethem pretty nice people would never planet bombs in civilian areas. They're nice terrorists.
    Who said they are? They only argument here is you suggesting the Israelis are any better.
    Instead of covering themselves up and hiding behinde civilians why don't they fight Israel like real men.
    And dropping thousands of tons of high explosives on civilian neighbourhoods for revenge is brave and corageous is it?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    I notice you didn't answer the question. You also failed to note the regular Israeli incursions into Lebanese territory post 2000.
    Hezbollah certainly gave Israel a mandate this time.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Do you know why Hezbollah was originally formed?

    Well luke, question dodger extroadinaire?
    luke88 wrote:
    Remember who started these waves of attacks. Hezbollah invaded Israel, kinapped, fired rockets and used the media to their advantage. You seem top forget the facts of all this. You prefer to use Hezbollah propaganda to fund your anti semitism.
    Furthermore, it is Hezbollah that wishes to destroy Israel, to destroy Jews, westerners (remember, that applies to me and you, ironically, you don't say anything about this), Christans will be next.
    With policies like this, I support Israel 110%

    Obviously not.
    luke88 wrote:
    Oh they always fool the fools.

    :yes: You got that right.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    The Israeli's also intentionally target civilians.
    They intensionally target Hezbollah.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    They are capable of using children as suicide bombers, to go out and directly kill innocents.

    Yes Hezbollah are hiding weapans, they do hang in civilian areas for the reason to grab peoples attensions like yours. To fool people like you. the media is quickly to inform the world of Israel killing xx civilians and this is hezbollahs plan. Oh they always fool the fools.
    Hezbollah aren't "hiding weapons" in a neighbourhood in Beirut. So shut it and stop lying, or give us some evidence.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Don't change the subject. You've said Israel doesn't attack civilians on purpose. The pictures prove otherwise and you know. Admit it or shut it.
    They attack Israel on purpose.
    Aladdin wrote:
    Oh yeah? That'd be why a large proportion of Hezbollah members are Christians and why Lebanon boasts more Christians than any other nation in the ME.
    The attacks is not on Lebanon it is on Hezbollah.
    Large porportion? How many?
    You're a hezbollah supporter? Lol
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    luke88 wrote:
    They attack Israel on purpose.
    Quit avoiding the subject. Israel does target and kill civilians on purpose. Admit it or shut it.

    The attacks is not on Lebanon it is on Hezbollah.
    Large porportion? How many?
    You're a hezbollah supporter? Lol
    As much as a third apparently.

    And who told you I was a hezbollah supporter?

    Not that it matter if I were. You are happily admitting here to everyone that you are a supporter of child murderers and war criminals!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    So why do you support a government that murders innocent women and children on purpose, invades and occupies every other nation in its vicinity, believes the whole land in the area belongs to it by Divine Decree and has hundreds of nuclear weapons as well as stockpiles of chemical and biological warheads?
    I don't support killing innocents that is why I don't support Hezbollah whom publicies this, they do actually kill innocents deliberately this ison the BBc website somewhere.
    Aladdin wrote:
    And dropping thousands of tons of high explosives on civilian neighbourhoods for revenge is brave and corageous is it?
    No it is targeting Hezbollah.
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