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Physically, yes definitely.
The thing is, many of the cases of female "rapists" I've read about have been statutory rape (most common cases of this reported in the ww media are teacher/student, I think) or committed against someone well-known to them - which is a common factor in many rape cases.
Sorry scarlett, I wasn't sure if you were addressing this to me or not.
I agree with you completely, and it seems improbable but I'm aware it has happened - though not in typical "rape" situations (as I babbled about in my previous post).
with all the rapes and murders that occur with an involvement between victim and attacker allready in place, its statistically safer to walk home with a stranger
I know that it is possible to rape a man. My and a bf had an arguement and i was really pissed of. He wouldn't have sex with me and I well, forced him. Pinned him down. So yeah its possible and was very wrong of me
its true that most attackers know their victims..but doesnt mean you are in more danger because you know people...hah
She'd have to get the bloody thing hard in the first place, so surely he must want it at least a little?
oh you want it
oh no i dont
OH YES YOU DO
SHES BEHIND YOU!!!!
With a strap on :O
That's apparently the main reason men don't report rape - whether the rapist is male or female. An erection can be the result of the slightest physical contact, as most of us know, or I suppose it could even occur before the rape (and then be seen as consent, in a weird kind of way). Especially if the two people concerned were being intimate.
If a heterosexual man is raped by another man - and gets an erection or even ejaculates - then it can understandably fuck with their head and make them entirely too ashamed to report it.
oh no i dont
OH YES YOU DO
SHES BEHIND YOU!!!!
with a strapon
so watch her get it on
But it's personal responsibility.
It obviously makes it more likely. People giving consent and then retracting it the next day because they'd had too much booze? Not only is that utterly stupid, it's totally impractical.
Yeah. Except what's proposed would mean that sleeping some consensually can be turned into a crime the next morning. I wonder what would happen if both of them accused each other of the same thing.
you'd both be screwed in more ways than one, on a side note i think this has been a good thread and stargalaxy should be commended, its raised some very serious and important issues for both sexes
i mean im sure having consentual rough rough really rough sex could leave bruising?
i thought stargalaxy had come up with a rather decent thread, turns out he put it in the wrong place, oh well
It didn't seem worth the effort of getting worked up about it, to be honest.
I also didn't like her initial comment, of:
"It seems that women get away with everything because men are seen as the stronger sex, which is absoloutely ridiculous."
to re-use her own phrase, it was absolutely ridiculous.
Yes i know this thats why i was trying to say this law shouldn't be aimed at just men sleeping with women.
I wasn't say that they do, but there have been reported cases of this happening.
I think its being ignored basically because in some weird kind of way its accepted that if the missus wants a bit n her chap doesn't she can kind of force him into it. The lad will never make an issue of it and cry rape and this also explains (to me) why the figures given of 10% of rapes are against men are so far off the mark its untrue. I know these are proper figures but I believe more men get raped (or what could be described as rape) than anyone seems to believe.
If I was at a party and I collapsed on a bed and woke to find someone riding me, I would probably be buzzing. A lass on the other hand would probably be disgusted. This is because women and men in my eyes are totally different species, women see sex in a totally different light to most men. But in both these cases its basically rape. Only one of them would be likely to get reported. If both got reported only one would be taken seriously imo.
Who is it accepted by, exactly? Men? I don't find it remotely acceptable. The reason I didn't address it was because I already broached the issue with that particular poster about the inherent general differences in rapes of women by men and rapes of men by women.
I don't know how far off the mark the figures are, but it seems that you're saying because men don't "cry rape" when they have actually been raped they are some kind of superior being. It is incredibly trying and difficult for a man or woman to report a rape, so don't bother saying that the reason the figures show more women are raped then men is because women make more of an issue of it.
Yes. But as GWST said, rape is rarely if ever anything to do with sex.
If you feel strongly about it then I suggest you get involved in raising awareness of male rape. The answer is not to denigrate and negate the female experience of rape.
I will repeat again, most male rapes in situations such as those we are discussing are committed by other males.
I can't believe this dicussion has turned into a men vs women in terms of rape, it is baffling.
Make more of an issue of it??? Stop making things up that I haven't said. I said (if I remember) is that in the situation I described about the drunken shananigans at a party, a lass would be more likely to report to police she has being raped. This is because I believe a lad wouldn't feel as violated in that certain situation and would be quite pleased in a way he'd got his end away. In my situation it was about sex after a drunken night where I'd collapsed on a bed and woke to find someone riding me. I wasn't talking about someone getting dragged off the streets into a dark alleyway and being raped. AND I don't believe much of this thread has being describing that because the whole discussion has basically being about drunken SEX and whether it has being consented to or not, which is what these new laws are all about, correct me if I'm wrong please. Mainly what has being discussed is drunken sex being classed as rape, well that what I've being reading anyway. It hasn't. I just believe the new legislation/law should also be aimed at women aswell as men.
One thing does come to mind though what if both the guy and the girl are drunk enough to not be thinking straight, what happens then is it the guys fault still even though he's in just as bad a way as the girl (and incase anyone brings this up men can be drunk enough not to think straight and still get it up, so the ownership of a errect penis doesnt prove motive just like it has been known for a girl to be raped and climax)
Rape is one of the worst things I can think of and the idea of someone doing that to someone else makes me more angry then most of you can possible guess but claiming someone did it when you just dont want to admit to yourself you did a stupid thing is even worse.
the laws are not there to tell you to have consent with someone first
they are there to punish those who dont seek consent