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I have been trying to keep my cool and comen and debat ebut you really are a dumb fucking moron if you believe any word in what you just wrote.
READ WHAT I WRITE!! DO NOT PUT YOUR OWN CONNATATIONS ON IT.
I NEVER SAID THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WOMEN ARE SEXUALLY ASSULTED!
:rolleyes:
You said some women enjoy it, as if it makes it alright. Of course you don't know these women- I grope and kiss my wife when we're in a club- but because someone gropes them its OK to grope everyone?
Why mention it if you aren't trying to argue that groping in pubs isn't that bad really?
Thats conjecture that you put onto me.
I'll explain it...AGAIN!!!!
Somone poste don here about what was a grope and what wasn't saying one thing was on and another not. They said squeezing tits is never on.
ALL I SAID was that I had been in clubs and seen loads of girls get their tits squeezed.
Thats it! Nothing else. Nothing of whether it was ok or not. Nothing about sexual assault. Just some things I had seen and that is it! Everything else has put on me since by you 3.
So you don't think that grabbing a woman's breast without her consent constitutes sexual assault? What do you think constitutes sexual assault?
yes, you said that girls like getting their breasts felt by strangers, in fact they love it. You're twisted in the wrongbrain.
I didn't wanna use caps but maybe thats hwo you will understand blag,
and...what? That he thinks that sexual assualt is OK is quite worrying.
Unless you can put up a direct quote from me where I say "sexual assault is ok", don't bother saying it again or I will say something to the mods coz that is just making a lie about me and thats not right.
i think walkindude was trying to say that a large minority of girls/guys shrug it off or like it
by your talking ive been sexually assulted by my girlfriend since she just done it without letting me know in advance - even if i enjoyed it
So walkintwat thinks the majority of women get off on being sexually assualted?
Can you really not see the difference between your partner touching you and a complete stranger?
Careful, you'll have someone's eye out with that.
That's a daft thing to say. A partner, or possibly even just a person known to you (and whom you like) is not comparable to sleazy-Joe-Average (or Josephine) in a club/pub/on the street/wherever.
As for a "large minority of girls/guys shrug[ing] it off or like[ing] it"; firstly I don't think that's remotely true. If it is, then you have to wonder why they shrug it off...a lot of women I know (and possibly even myself) would feel far too intimidated to make a fuss about it, even though I think they rightly should.
Surely everyone's got the right to bop around a club or go about their daily life without being felt up, and those who do fancy a bit of a grope should try and seek out a willing partner rather than put their tentacles out for every likely person who passes them by.
Though when I asked a girl about puling, thats what she told me to do so go figure.
Why don't they take it as a compliment. I think it's more down to how the person percieves it.
Bit like holding a door open for a women, some take offence, some don't.
Of course groping is sort of a sexual thing, however I don't see it myself as anything too maliscious IMHO.
ETA: people's definition of a grope here also varies so I might come across as being a prick in this thread. A grope to me is a pinch on the arse or getting groovey on the dancefloor with a girl, it's pretty harmless.
Groping some girls tits at the bar waiting for drink, like WTF, that aint no grope.
Because its intimidating.
I hold doors open for men and women alike. I've yet to have anyone take offence.
Although the vast majority of rape is committed by someone know to the victim...
Intimidating for some, not for others.
Some people would say "thank you but i'm perfectly capable of opening the door myself"
I guess the point is why some blokes think that groping a strange woman is acceptable - why do they view women as objects that they can grope without considering how she feels about it?
I've never encountered that. Have you?
I've already said it's part of lad culture, have a few pints, a grope on the arse here and there...doesn't mean they're animals though.
Nope I have never encountered it myself.
Do you not think that there might be a problem with "lad culture" then?
Why mention it then?
My personal objection would be the representation of women. For many reasons but most poiniently becasue all the women who are supposed to be attractive are White, Tall, Slim, Buxum, Long Hair; I am brown, short, skinny, flat, short thick curly wirey hair but... chow down on my skinny posterior lads mags coz I'm fit as foq, you just better recognise init. Also, you see how quick I am to reafirm my physical attractiveness- wtf?- this shouldn't be an indicator of my worth but somehow I find it is, to myself and to those around me. Are 'lads's mags' and the like responsible for this? Partly.
Why should they have to take it as a compliment?
Whose responsibility is it? The man's to not be a little grubby cunt and grope women, or the woman's to "take it as a compliment" and shrug it off?
Someone was trying to do it to the lass last night, if I'd noticed I'd have nutted the little grubby cunt. And quite rightly.
Yes but as you said, lad culture just didn't come about. You can't blame it all on men, there's many social factors that have to be taken into account as to understands why men grope, why some women accept it and why some don't?
Kermit, fair enough, you're sticking to your guns I'm sticking to mine, no one's gonna change my mind in this debate.
Neither can I...wanna head to the pub for a pint and a grope