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Heavy beards are not light moustaches - light moustaches in this instance are an ethnic trait. Obviously if something is particular to your own ethnicity then it's not going to appear off-putting.
Well come on. Seems quite clear what I mean?
you're being absurd
of course ...it will now be argued that glossy magazines stop people from understanding how to do this.
if these mags were printed on boring old recycled paper ...would they hold the same power over mankind!
It's absurd but proves a point if you're going to deny attraction is at least partly biological.
Yes if they don't respect the fact that the women doesn't like the grope then they are pigs. Most men get a bad look and they'll never go near that woman again.
i'm not denying that biology plays a part - what I'm saying is that culture influences it within parameters set by biology
I have seen loads on nights out not exchange a word and just start feeling them up and the girl doesn't mind at all.
Its hard to know the protocol really, coz some girls if you chat think your an idiot so what do you do?
Well my wife doesn't like being groped in pubs.
Nobody asks her.
Those that don't ask are, by your definition, pigs. They can't possibly know if the woman wants it.
Yep, they just go and grope another one. Who doesn't want it. And so on and so forth.
Maybe because she was raped, eh?
Is any physical contact classed as a grope ?
I'm sure the definition would vary for every woman. But for me, it's any physical contact that I didn't initiate or freely go along with. For instance, I wouldn't class a kiss on the cheek/lips/nose/hand/elbow from a friend as a "grope" (or more accurately, unwanted physical contact) but if some random fella plants a big sloppy one on you in a pub then I'd probably be quite pissed off. Not "flattered", as some assume you will be :rolleyes:
I find the "hands on hips" thing very intimate, although I'm sure a lot of girls aren't bothered, and I wouldn't be comfortable with that kind of contact unless I knew him well/he was my boyfriend. I don't find men squeezing your tits to be at all acceptable, I don't know why any man would assume that.
I know of one person on the Sex Offenders Register for five years for stroking a woman's thigh through her clothes in a pub. And quite rightly, too.
Grabbing someone is a grope, hips or whatever.
So "not doing anything about it" equals consent, does it?
What a twisted view of the world that is.
not twisted view at all, rather experience.
I never said groping is right. I'm just saying what I saw.
Some girls have a rape fantasy, doesn't make rape right. Some girls like heavy-duty bondage, doesn't mean everyone does.
Assuming that because one girl in a club doesn't mind a nice lad grabbing her bum doesn't mean that everyone can have a stroke, and doesn't mean that lad can stroke every girl in the pub. It's a simple enough point to grasp.
If you grope someone who didn't ask for it then you are a twat.
maybe they're scared? intimidated? ever think of that? although do that to my g/f and you'll end up in hospital
stop putting insinuations to what I wirte and read what I put.
coz thats what I am talking about.
someone puts a post about groping and saying squeezing tits is wrong.
I put up a simply post saying I have seen it loads of times it clubs.
thats it, no more no less. Why expand on that and practically put words in my mouth?
what are you on about? people can smile while still being scared and intimidated.
you're sick in the head
yeah of course, that's what happens every time a woman is sexually assualted. No wonder you can't get a girlfriend.