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I don’t remember it being particularly religious at all, there were a few hymns and stuff but not much else. I think even state non-religious primary schools have to have hymns and assemblies of a broadly Christian nature? Anyway I don’t remember it ever being an issue at all.
From what I hear most C of E schools are pretty watered-down and non-Christians/atheists don’t feel particularly out of place. I’d guess Christians/atheists would feel a little more out of place at Muslim schools. Maybe that's because there's more of a focus on Islam at Muslims schools. Don't really know though.
We were told the scientific facts about sex etc when I was 10, I thought everyone did.........
Actually I don't think that parent sshould have the unique right to their childs education so I would be extremely distrustful of home education although I assume they have to stick to certain guidelines.......
The main point is that parents do not 'own' their children in anyway that gives them these kind of unique rights in their education.
Do you not beleive that their are certain values and principles that all children should be instilled with as much as possible for the good of society?
I also can't see how you can deffend the teaching of intelligent design, would you be happy with your kids being taught lies? What if your kids history teacher was teaching holocaust revisionism, would you be happy with that?
some people attacking the state in some threads for taking away our freedoms but in threads like this one ...always shouting and screaming about how the state knows best.
well i for one have children who have varied views from each other.
one is an adamant creationist ...based on the facts ...another is an ardent accidental everything evolusionist based on a lot of wishful thinking.
how dare some of you say that someone cannot teach their own children what they wish within reason?
if someone sees abortion as murder ...fervently feels it ...whyu the hell should the state be allowed to interfere?
You notice too? Im not alone!
I say the state knows best if the state is well run. Ours is quite possibly worse run than Putin's. Although Moscow now has the highest concentration of Millionares anywhere...
Who's laughing now?
The point is...education shouldn't be used to shape someone's faith or religious belief. It should be a personal matter.
Remove fanaticism from education and replace it with informed consideration, that is the best method.
i want the freedom to be different than most of the normals ...seems that too is becoming an offence even in the minds of those who think they are standing up for freedom.
i've always distanced myself from the latest version of normal and feel the need to do so ever more ...especialy after having read some of the views in this thread.
Stupid, can't learn fact because Religion contradicts it.
what the hell is wrong these days with debate?
teaching only one ...is brain washing.
I remember when I was younger, got myself kicked out of class because I kept arguing with the teacher, I was convinced that god had made earth. Now I am getting kicked out of class because I debate the other side. Ultimately the only debate that can take place on the matter is one conducted by a single person choosing which to believe.
most creationists look to scienctific principals rather than blindly accept some words from an old book.
a good education should surely be basd on a lot of debate ...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1544143,00.html
One look at a newspaper any other day of the year should make you rethink that...
Not always, no. When talking about planet-wise floods and arks full of animals or an entire species created overnight and descended from a single couple (two name but just two such instances), you can be entirely sure that 'facts' are not involved in any way in such claims.
debate is sadly missing it would seem.
debates that forced you to question things rather than believe the current view.
Religious education classes already have the chance to put their case forward. There is no need for such beliefs to invade other areas of education, be science, history or biology.
The so-called intelligent design 'theory' is not a scientific Theory of any kind: it's window-dressed Creationism, nothing else.
goodnight and god bless ...
"We aren't saying that 'god' created life... just that it was started by somone who has the basic knowledge of how to create and run the universe...and that could be nearly anyone".
I mean honeslty :rolleyes:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,,1559743,00.html
doesn't actualy add anything at all to the evolusionists argument.
theres nothing scientific in the piece at alll ...just a very frustrated attack on inteligent design ....goodnight.