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And isn't there something saying Jets should be fully fuel on takeoff incase they have to divert to a different airport for whatever reason?
Edit: How did a stormfront topic get to here?
Would you accept the possibility that the highest echelons were deliberately slack in dealing with the situation considering they'd been given prior warning of the attacks...perhaps even deliberately allowing them to go ahead? It seems very suspicious the attacks occured just as the US was entering an era where their oil supplies were running low....
oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil oil
so what does it boil down to...democracy spreading, liberty
Its all about power. Oil was never running low. People see that some in the Bush administration have links, see Iraq has oil and do a little sum 1 + 1 that must = 3! Oh yay we can now go on a nice demo and denounce them as evil multinationals!
You clearly have the memory of a fish. Read clandestine's posts on neoconservatism in the neo-con thread.
power?...why would you want to spend hundreds of billions of dollars invading a middle east country, seriously, if there wasn't anything in return...and oil was never running low?...is it water, is there an infinite source, and with further demand from developing countries, oil is in need more than ever...
why, you joked about the oil view, i joked about the democracy view, doesn't matter if it's real or not.
Given that the owner of the building (as anyone would know if they actually bothered to read the substantial collated evidence provided in my first link) is on record (that's recorded evidence) saying issuing the order to "pull" the buildings, any legitimate investigation (should we ever obtain one with the overwhelming sheepish apathy which pervades this issue) would rightly begin with him. Also of telling note is the massive insurance winfall the destruction of the towers netted to the owner and his business cohorts.
What astounds me is that people spend more time asking "where did the plane go?" then considering how simple it would be for those who could orchestrate such a tactically complicated multiple false flag operation to have simply diverted the plane(s) elsewhere or fly them into the ocean.
Do not forget that 5 simultaneous military air exercises were also curiously scheduled for that very day, exercises involving (of all scenarios) the hijacking of planes for use as weapons (known as Tripod II). Remote guided planes were in fact used and are used by our military for such exercises. Thus the very plausible possibility was the diversion of the passenger planes to remote locations from where the passengers were offloaded and grouped onto the one flight that was hailed as a victory for the passengers (the one which evidence more rightly suggests was successfully shot down over Pennsylvania).
None of those who raise the "where is the plane?" question seem critically capable of asking equally whether UA or AA fleet audits were ever conducted to verify how many planes they had nationwide both before and after 911 (another glaring oversight requiring true investigation). Its not in dispute that planes hit the WTC, just which planes? (given the aerial maneuvres, most unlikely any flown by pilots whose own instructors swore affidavits to their inability to fly even a piper cub).
Any intended operation on that day is far more plausible coming from our own military/intelligence establishment than hijackers (many of whom in fact turned up alive and well in other countries). It's all about bait and switch and the compliance of a non-investigatory media to repeat the official line enough that it becomes a filter through which the preponderance of public perception is thenceforth maintained (as we see so repeatedly here).
America's oil supplies are seriously declining and pose a serious risk to their future prosperity, i'm 99% certain that's fact.
Power over whom? What makes Iraq such a target? I wouldn't be surprised if the US deliberately armed Saddam Hussein along with Al-Queda in the calculated hope they'd eventually bite the hand that once fed them, thus creating an excuse to move into the Middle East and plunder that which they desire - oil.
I mean, what about the people phoning from their mobile phones? Why should a plane strike to the ground, if people weren't really in it, but rather someone sent from the government?
Indeed.
I doubt any government would forceably kill a bunch of civilians as a coverup for such a thing. They'd just use cargo planes or something.
Why?
They "forcibly killed" all the people in the buildings, what's a few more to the tally?
LOok at the tens of thousands they've killed in Iraq: just because they're our government doesn't mean that they wouldn't kill us.
Personally I do think that the theories have some truth in them. The Government did know what they were planning- Clinton had told the BUsh team long before it happened. I don't think Bush ordered it, or the GOvernment did it, but I do think that they knew it was coming and did nothing to prevent it. Bush didn't actively kill those people, but I strongly suspect that he and his government could have saved them but chose not to for political reasons. I think Bush decided that the political and financial gain they could make was worth more than the lives of 4,000 people.
After all, they believed it about Iraqis, why should it be any different just because it was Americans getting killed?
Hence, it worked to their advantage really.
Clearly they are not very good though, if you can find so many holes.
Tell me, do you think that the moon landings were faked too?
Racists have a much easier time dehumanizing people from other continents. It wouldn't be hard for the folks of the Bush administration to look at 4,000 Americans and see people, and look at 4,000 some Iraqi's and see something entirely different.
I do agree with you though, the people who run the White House are too intelegent to ignore and be unaware of all the intel the Clinton administration had piled up on Osama.
I know that wasn't directed at me but was just in a discussion about this recently. At least part of the landings were faked, there is footage of them faking it. But i wouldn't go so far as to say the whole thing is counterfeit.
Manufactured consent serves to keep enough of the public content not to bother looking beyond what the mainstream media reports and sufficient numbers of others vocally shouting down those who do to ensure that the admin avoids facing indictment and forced handover of all materials currently withheld from investigation.
Even the "official" Congressional investigation (whitewash) only obtained a quarter of the materials it demanded and nothing was pressed to the public concerning that stonewalling.
Sorry, but if anything is a conspiracy theory its the coverstory.
Oil doesn't need to be running low for multinational corporations to want to have direct control over the supply.
A myopic agenda that is sure to lead to world war once again, certainly when China (if not India as well) ramps up its global military reach and decides to push Washington off its perch in the region.
is that a distinct possibility and if so, how long?
lol you'd need to be if we get dragged into something like that again...as for alternative energy resources, what plans if any does the US have for meeting the huge demand for energy...