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Well, that's the Mid East peace process gone then...
BillieTheBot
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So the Israelis and Palestinians form a truce (after the so-called "obstacle" to the peace process, Yasser Arafat, has been removed), and the Palestinians comply with a number of security demands made by the Israelis. So what's next then, after the all-important security issues have been addressed? It's time to start talking and resolving the real issues of this conflict- mainly the illegal occupation of Palestinian land by Israel, the illegal settlements and the return to 1967 borders. So what does Israel do?
Israel to build more than 6,000 illegal new homes in the West Bank
What a bunch of so and so*
* Previous expletives removed in view that the story has changed and the Israeli government now denies the report is true...
Israel to build more than 6,000 illegal new homes in the West Bank
Israel plans to build more than 6,000 new homes in settlements in the West Bank, an Israeli newspaper quoting the state land authority has reported.
Yediot Ahronot says the government will also legitimise 120 unauthorised settlement outposts.
What a bunch of so and so*
* Previous expletives removed in view that the story has changed and the Israeli government now denies the report is true...
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I see that in hte last few moments the news piece has changed and now it reads "Israel denies homes plan report".
I hope this is true.
I noticed that. I think even Israel know at the moment that it's pushing it a bit far to build 6,000 new homes....
It's definitely true then.
Just our fault.
Haaretz
Rumour is suicide bomber again, several dead. Source: BBC News 10pm.
R.I.P & sympathy to all the young victims of 'adult' stupidity.
According to the Scotsman
whilst radio4 is saying there is no credible claim of responsibility.
Death toll now at 3 - injured at 38.
What scum.
Well thats what it looks like because Palestinian deaths haven't been receiving a lot of attention, whereas once again a suicide bombing gets top billing in the news.
Source
But hey don't let the real world get in the way of your prejudice....
No-one forced the suicide bomber to murder clubbers.
One murdered civilian is one murdered civilian too many, Palestinian or Israeli.
I think its time arch-apologists faced up to the prejudices they hold, the double standards they apply to human life. Civilians in a nightclub queue, fair game for the so-called "resistance", civilians leading children to safety, heroic shahids, victims of oppression.
But you know who the bad guys are, who have only themselves to blame.
I don't think you have ever let the real world get in the way of your prejudice.
:wave:
And Aladdin was calling out for Israeli apologist in this thread. Unfortunately these actions speak way louder than anybodys words ever could.
Madge Noon has the right idea though. Welcome to the boards.
70 deaths and 102 injuries vs 4 deaths and 50 injuries.
Am I missing something here, why is the latter figure so shocking, whilst the former figure appears to pass without comment?
Is it merely that the latter are prominently reported, whilst the former have been ignored ?
Is it really okay for Israelis to kill Palestinians, but when Palestinians kill Israelis after that, they are jeapordizing the peace process?
Anyone would think that the news was being stage managed........ especially with the Hezbollah connextion being brought into the picture within a very short while ....
Palestinian statements on the attack include:
Dr. Nafez Azzam, Islamic Jihad spokesperson and political head:
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade spokesperson Abu Qussai:
Sami Abu Zohri, Hamas spokesperson:
Nabil Abu Rudeina - PA spokesperson:
Saeeb Erekat - Palestinian negotiator:
The Minister of Palestinian civil affairs, Mohammed Dahlan suggested that an informal Palestinian group or even Israeli fanatics might stand behind the blast in Tel-Aviv.
So, the question is this - whose actions speak louder than words? Who is responsible? Hezbollah, Islamic Kihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, all have been blamed or said to claim responsibility - Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Brigade have denied. Is it the work of a renegade cell, a few pissed of individuals, is it black ops..... I have no idea.
And to make things even more confusing, the Jerusalem Post tells us:
Abbas has vowed to hunt down those responsible, we shall see what happens.
I've just worked out that until recently you were Jacqueline the Ripper. I don't like "Madge Noon" following me around, with some dodgy agenda, I find it alarming and distressing. I believe that it amounts, in law, to harrassment, and that it is intended to do so.
But, maybe using a different handle would solve the problem.
So, perhaps you would be kind enough to let the mods know that you have no objection to me using the JtR handle that is closely associated with you.
You would of course still have two advantages over my current predicament - namely that
1) You would know who was using the handle closely linked to you
2) I wouldn't be following you about the boards.
After all, despite our political differences, I would defend you to the hilt if I believed that someone had followed you onto these boards with an agenda designed to cause you personal harrassment, alarm and distress.
Cheers.
Oh and what are you on about now ftp? What's JtR supposed to have done?
Four deaths are disgusting, but 70 deaths don't matter.
Israel kills EIGHTEEN TIMES the number of people that one bomber does (origin unknown, the Palestinians have said they haven't done it, and they're not normally backward at admitting responsibility) and yet it's Palestine that is "de4stroying" the peace process.
I'm obviously missing something very important here. Maybe the Israeli apologists can explain to me why ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE palestinian lives don't count.
Do you expect Palestinian militants to ignore shootings of Palestinian civilians?
Do you think that it is time for Israel to strike back and bring the fragile truce to a close?
Are you happy for the (admittedly extremely slim) window of opportunity for peace to be closed?
It seems that all the main factions have denied involvement - and that no-one knows who bears responsibility. The PA have condemned it. and vowed to find those responsible.
According to recent reports the PA has sealed 12 tunnels in Rafah, so there is a case for suggesting that the PA might be more able to gather the intelligence needed to arrest those responsible.
It is time for ALL the killing to stop, and for a just settlement which restores human rights and dignity to the people of occupied Palestine.
Allowing extremists from either side (inc settlers threatening to attack the Al-Aqsa mosque) to destroy any hope of peace, justice and dignity for all in the forseeable future would be a travesty.
Sorry lukesh, I didn't realise that you knew who was responsible for the attack.
You also, erm, forget to mention it. Could you fill us in now please?
So, every single Palestinian is responsible for this action?
Is every single Israeli to be held responsible for the 70 Palestinian deaths too?
Are you personally responsible for the torture of Iraqis by British soldiers?
he certainly has access to information the rest of us don't.
Source, dipshit.
So you support bloodshed over peace.
Thankyou for your fascinating insights caller.
If Israel had any design on peace then those one hundred and seventy three lives would still be in tact.
But I forget: Palestinian lives don't count, do they luke, do they jacq, do they dis? Four Israeli deaths are despicable, but eighteen times that number of Palestinian deaths doesn't matter.
I'm not surprised that you believe an occupied people can be broken by the use of brute force, terror and war crimes. Sharon believed that too, but if we are to believe that he is genuine in his statements at the Sharm-el-Sheikh conference, then it would appear he has conceded that it doesn't work.
The Israeli military intelligence bods involved in compiling a recent report for the Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies concluded that the adopting of the approach you suggest at the start of the second Intifada escalated the conflict and created more militants:
And you thank its time to go there again.
I notice that you are studiously avoiding the deaths of Palestinians. Is it because you are a racist?
Well, at leat you admit it.
Do you have an opinion on the 70 deaths?
Are you going to share it with us?
Or should I conclude that I am wasting my time even bothering to discuss anything with an immature, intolerant, unthinking, bloodthirsty racist.
Cos thats exactly how its coming across.