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Completely unfanciable. I'm going to top myself.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Meryn wrote: »
    Is it really 'wasting time' if you enjoy yourself on the date and get a friendship out of it? And you never know, one of these friendships may develop...it's very hard to tell with just one date.
    I really do not enjoy spending time with female friends, especially like having a night out with one of them, where it would be exactly like a bf/gf date except we're not going out. Because I get really hurt instead, what overrides any positives of friendship is how much it upsets me that I like them but can't be with them for unknown reason, even though they're single and tell me about how much they want a boyfriend, their random pulls on nights out, how Mr X was a jerk because he said Y to her, etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Ideally a want a relationship, but I believe somethiing is better than nothing, and would much rather prefer a drunken pull or a one-night stand than walking home alone every time, as someone else said perhaps because I haven't experienced it.
    Yeah I think you're right, and I don't know what the problem is? In your words, "perfect grades, top degree, top job" I've found completely possible to achieve through sheer determination and hard work, yet this doesn't work for lovelife, but nor does as everyone says completely cooling off and trying to forget about it, that gives the same result - nothing.

    if you just want to shag, then you're not looking in the right places. They really can't be that hard to find.
    But you can't just click your fingers and expect someone to walk into your life, you're only 23.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I really do not enjoy spending time with female friends, especially like having a night out with one of them, where it would be exactly like a bf/gf date except we're not going out. Because I get really hurt instead, what overrides any positives of friendship is how much it upsets me that I like them but can't be with them for unknown reason, even though they're single and tell me about how much they want a boyfriend, their random pulls on nights out, how Mr X was a jerk because he said Y to her, etc.

    Hmm, whereas I'd love to be able to have some female friends to go out with in this way (just so happens I don't right now). I'm quite happy just to have fun with girls - going out on a 'date' doesn't have to mean theres going to be a relationsip or even a second date - just have a bit of fun..one of them might realise you're not for her but she's got a mate who'd be perfect for you!

    You need to get over the fact that you're single - that's how it is and no matter what you do it won't change until you're comfortable being you (and for the most part, it sounds like you are comfortable with your life, job, degree etc.) - once you're comfortable with that and it's no longer ruling your thoughts (as it sooo is right now - and I know what it's like but you're still young) then you'll almost certainly be luckier

    Just go out and have some fun and don't see every girl you like as a potential girlfriend...

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    deceelpool wrote: »
    Firstly, I can't believe all this socialite crap, because your being a right miserable twat.
    Everyone thinks I'm a very positive, happy person, a joker, a party animal, because this is how I come across in real life. Just like a lot of successful people and comedians, few people would know they are actually miserable when they're always smily and happy.
    deceelpool wrote: »
    And nobody wants to know if your going to blow your head off mate, post your problems no lame threats designed to get you attention.
    I'm not trying to get attention, I'm being serious. There just seems to be no point to living. Life is not fun. There is more downside than upset. There is more pain than pleasure. I have a dream job that people really envy, but even that means having to wake up early and commute in the pouring rain.
    deceelpool wrote: »
    I agree with others, it seems Daddy hasn't been able to buy you a girlfriend so its 'so unfair' - bollocks.
    I really object to any "Daddy buy me" insults. I have worked so hard my whole life very independently, without relying on my parents to get me my job offers. And the bottom line is that even if my assets/qualities may not attract women, surely I deserve a good life as a reward for how hard I have worked, and having someone that cares about me is part of that good life?
    deceelpool wrote: »
    If all what you say is true, especially if your not fussy, i find it really hard to beleive you havnt found a shag. Don't get me wrong, theres nothing wrong with being a virgin, but if your that desparate..
    Well, this is what really gets me down. Everyone says similar, people can't believe I never have, I don't know what I'm doing wrong when I've done every strategy under the sun, from asking outright to being a bit subtle to not showing any interest at all.

    Can you please appreciate I'm pretty sensitive right now and your insults are only undoing people's useful advice.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    OP - the more importance you place on this, then the more miserable you're going to become about this. To be perfectly honest, it really isn't that big a deal. The fact that you're making out that it is the be-all and end-all of existence is exactly the reason why you're feeling so bad about this. God knows I feel for you but your quasi-obsession over this one act is the sole reason why you're like this.
    Like I said in the other thread, my whole life there seems to be an obsession with sex sex sex all around me. I was bullied at 6th form for (apparantly) being the only virgin in the class. EVERY DAY AT WORK, ONE OF THE OTHER GRADS COMES UP TO MY DESK, ASKING LOUDLY WHY I CAN'T GET A GIRLFRIEND, in order to humiliate me in front of my boss. I've told him repeatedly quite explicitly to fuck off but he won't go away. Every time I talk to friends, they all ask how my lovelife is, the female friends tease me asking about which hot girls are chasing me, which just makes me feel even shitter when the answer is nobody whatsoever.
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    Ballerina wrote: »
    if you just want to shag, then you're not looking in the right places. They really can't be that hard to find.
    Where? I won't do prostitution/escorts, just not my thing. Where can I legitimately pick up girls like that?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Has it ever occured to you that people who go on & on about their sex lives could be lying about it? I made a thread a few years ago asking what the big deal was and I'm sure someone said that people who go on & on about sex are probably lying and just doing it to wind you up.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I really object to any "Daddy buy me" insults. I have worked so hard my whole life very independently, without relying on my parents to get me my job offers. And the bottom line is that even if my assets/qualities may not attract women, surely I deserve a good life as a reward for how hard I have worked, and having someone that cares about me is part of that good life?

    No-one deserves a girlfriend. In order (IMHO at least) to get a girlfriend you do need to very confident around girls.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jack in your job and go travelling - who cares about the "perfect CV/academics/job" if it doesn't make you happy?

    Sounds like you actually need to experience life. Get youself out to Thailand/OZ get some experiences under your belt and meet some people outside of the group you normally socialise with.

    If your as shit hot as you claim you can easily get a good job when you come back.

    I find it strange that your focusing on the "I can't get a girlfriend" part of your problems! I would be very much more worried with the whole wanting to kill yourself thing...

    Get yourself sorted!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sofie wrote: »
    In order (IMHO at least) to get a girlfriend you do need to very confident around girls.
    I'm incredibly confident around girls. I know I'm being on the defensive again, but really I am. I've had girls' phone numbers within a minute of meeting them, then taken them out on dates. I'm good with eye contact and flirty body language, actually get quite a few girls coming up to me initiating conversation or wanting to dance. It just never gets past there.
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    Jomery wrote: »
    Where? I won't do prostitution/escorts, just not my thing. Where can I legitimately pick up girls like that?

    try different clubs that you haven't been to before? Tbh i don't see how losing your virginity to a random lass from a club is any different from losing it to an escort.
    Maybe you're over confident? It can be very intimidating.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jon_UK wrote: »
    Jack in your job and go travelling - who cares about the "perfect CV/academics/job" if it doesn't make you happy?

    Sounds like you actually need to experience life. Get youself out to Thailand/OZ get some experiences under your belt and meet some people outside of the group you normally socialise with.

    If your as shit hot as you claim you can easily get a good job when you come back.
    Great advice, except I'm in the middle of a three year graduate training programme, and have exams now and then, and get a qualification at the end, it's not something I can pack in and come back whenever I want and carry on where I left off! At the end of it maybe, though that's a while away.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There is a tried and tested process. Just try it on with everything that has breasts and moves.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ShyBoy wrote: »
    There is a tried and tested process. Just try it on with everything that has breasts and moves.

    :lol: Been there done that?!:p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ShyBoy wrote: »
    There is a tried and tested process. Just try it on with everything that has breasts and moves.

    what about man boobs?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I'VE BEEN REJECTED BY OVER 50 GIRLS IN THE LAST 8 YEARS. NOT PULLED A SINGLE ONE OF THEM. WHETHER THAT'S JUST MEETING THEM, HAVING KNOWN THEM FOR A WHILE ETC. AT OFFICE PARTIES EVERYONE GETS LUCKY EXCEPT ME.

    easy dude... while 50 sound alot, some people get rejected 4 times a night. It's just an attitude problem if you're not butt-ugly. If I were you I'd really chatted up the one girl who posted in here, why not? That's your opportunity.

    It isn't even that easy to woo for girls, there is certainly a little hook to it. All I can recommend is, trying to find out what you do different as people esp. girls on here suggest. You need to take a very careful and close look, however.

    Like I stated before, if you expect a girl to go out with you and fall out of the clouds because she rejects you, because you are oh so brilliant, then your self-esteem will only suffer and suffer. It didn't take me to pull a girl to realize that and change my attitude (as I never pulled in the sense of a one-night-stand).

    It's like in the karate-kid movies. Crying to the sensai won't help, you need to pull yourself together and work on what's not running smooth now, because there isn't any kind of black curse on you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Background: 23, good degree from prestigious uni, dream job. Virgin, never been kissed, never had a girlfriend. :crying:

    I can't cope anymore with lovely girls telling me every single day that they can't believe I'm still single despite the fact they'd never be interested themselves.

    I can't cope anymore with being a well-known socialite but leaving every party alone whilst everyone else is hooked up.

    I can't cope anymore with people asking how many people I've pulled and slept with. The truth: 0 and 0.

    I can't cope anymore with male friends going on about the random pulls they got on nights out and which girls are chasing them.

    I can't cope anymore with female friends going on about which guys like them, how they don't really fancy someone but would pull them anyway, but would never pull me.

    I can't cope anymore with female friends going on about how all men are bastards, how much they've been hurt by guys and how they want someone like me, yet for whatever reason would never actually go out with me.

    I can't cope anymore with the most drunk of girls in clubs quickly turning their cheek if I try to kiss them having been grinding with them all night.

    I can't cope anymore with taking newly met girls out dancing, buying all their drinks for some guy to just walk in and pull them.

    I can't cope anymore with crying myself to sleep every night that despite everything I have achieved in academic, careerist and monetary terms, I cannot achieve the most basic thing in human life - love, copulating, finding a partner.

    I can't cope anymore with thinking that I've gone through high school, university and a graduate scheme and have missed out on one of the important things that everyone looks back on, and not through choice.

    I can't cope with living anymore, to wrap that up.

    There's no point in going on.

    I'm too scared to jump out of the top of my building or take an overdose of pills on the off-chance I don't kill myself and just get badly hurt, hospitalized and embarrassed for life.

    I need a gun. If I had a loaded gun in my hand right now I would without any hesitation shoot myself and end it all now. I don't know where to get one. I'm based in London. I read in the newspaper last week (David Cameron's 'Hug a Hoody' thug) that all the inner city gangs have easy access to them, how do I approach them to get one?

    x

    Hiya mate, the only way in which that post differs from my life to date is that I have a shit job and minimal education although I probably not quite as sociable though thats not to say I'm not sociable, I am. Oh and I'm 23 in October.

    I can't offer any advice but I do understand your problems. This post is different to your last one, things are genuinely concerning you and you're not coming across and someone who thinks they deserve a girlfriend/shag because they're successful.

    Just this Saturday gone, I found myself dancing and grinding with a few girls but got nothing and that's always the case yet my mate who I was with pulled in the first 20 minutes.

    It's getting me down as well. I'm not just after sex, I'm after a real relationship. But, when you've never been kissed, shagged or been in a relationship, you find you'll do what you can to do any of them.

    This week has been exceptionally hard because all these feelings have got me down, along with seeing a girl I've REALLY fancied for AGES this weekend but being unable to do anything because she's so far out of my league it's unreal.

    Feel free to PM me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery, you talk about going out and being sociable and mr popular. Okay, so you're shit hot and you get girls coming up to you to talk..

    So what do you talk about? Maybe your choice of conversation topic is the problem? If you talk to girls about yourself, your high flying career, your money, then I'm not surprised you're single and lonely.

    What do you talk about in the real world?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Good point, Ilora. It would put me off a guy if he was either up his own arse or just bored me to death.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Moreover let me repeat myself once more. Girls feel/smell when you are coming onto them. I learned that if you go like a bull at a gate with girls, it will very often fail. When there was a period where I only went out with girls when I fancied them, there was always a bit of awkwardness and I can guess they smelled the rat.

    When I said, hey crap on that, let's just go out sans pulling and have fun, and took some random girl from my study or whoever with me, it was so much more fun, and there was much more proximity (physically or mentally wise), even tho that was not my intention.

    I know it's hard to tell you, to lean back and relax, that's like telling someone who crawled through desert sahara not to drink so hastily.

    I just want to give you food for thought, that you realize the issues. If you come on too hard/desperate, just with the sole intention it's hardly going to work, except you are really asking every girl you meet through the night until someone finally agrees. Once again one of thise stupid populistic sayings, "You won't find love if you keep looking for it." Well, screw them whoever tells you those to put your mind at ease, but it somehow defends my points up there.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery, you talk about going out and being sociable and mr popular. Okay, so you're shit hot and you get girls coming up to you to talk..

    So what do you talk about? Maybe your choice of conversation topic is the problem? If you talk to girls about yourself, your high flying career, your money, then I'm not surprised you're single and lonely.

    What do you talk about in the real world?
    I never talk about myself unless asked. And I don't go into too much detail about my job, whilst it's prestigious there's not that much to talk about it outside the office. I come across fairly modest. I always ask them a lot of questions about themselves, although admittedly it often goes down the very boring "What uni did you go to?", "What did you study?", "What job do you do?" crap. Try and talk a bit about London life. There's been quite a few dates I've been on where I thought we clicked amazingly well, no awkward silences at all, had them laughing a lot and interested in what I was saying, but that's it, they just want to be friends they say. And then keep getting in touch wanting to go out for a drink where they talk about how they're single and ask me if I have any friends they can be hooked up with... :banghead:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    On a different note. the guy that keeps coming to your desk and humiliating you. If that is really through, you do not need to put up with that, because in my opinion that's mobbing and totally not on.
    how they're single and ask me if I have any friends they can be hooked up with...

    what? how often did this happen to you? I never heard of such indiscrecy, especially if they know you are single too....

    maybe a whole different and more important question: what kind of girls do you focus on?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sofie wrote: »
    :lol: Been there done that?!:p

    Yea, but they fortunately the alcohol wore off soon enough that I remembered I had standards.

    I wish I could have forgotten my number though. :(
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    StrubbleS wrote: »
    what? how often did this happen to you? I never heard of such indiscrecy, especially if they know you are single too....
    Yup, story of my life. They know I'd love to go out with them, and I get totally used as the chump who fixes them up with my guy friends who they then often pull or go out with. Which is why I just want to shun my female friends who use me like that and make me feel like shit going on about how they can't believe I'm single. Hello? :banghead:
    StrubbleS wrote: »
    maybe a whole different and more important question: what kind of girls do you focus on?
    No one type at all. Have chased a diverse variety. White/black/Asian. Slim/a bit chubby. Investment bankers with Oxbridge degrees and shop assistants with no GCSEs. Loud and shy. etc...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    StrubbleS wrote: »
    On a different note. the guy that keeps coming to your desk and humiliating you. If that is really through, you do not need to put up with that, because in my opinion that's mobbing and totally not on.
    It's pretty rife in all the top grad jobs in London - management consultancy, corporate law and investment banking. Basically with a grad scheme you pool together maybe 100 over-competitive over-achievers, who basically have to fight against one another in order to secure their fast-track promotion or bigger bonus. That means a lot of backstabbing, trying to make themselves look better by humiliating you in front of the boss, spreading gossip etc. Just something you have to get used to, it's very common in all the prestigious jobs that pay over £40k starting salaries.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Maybe you should try meeting somoene off the net. Like join myspace or facebook or faceparty.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    Maybe you should try meeting somoene off the net. Like join myspace or facebook or faceparty.
    Have met quite a few from all three of those sites. As I said before exactly same thing happens whether I meet girls off the internet or out clubbing. They just want to be friends. And not only do they just want a standard don't-see-each-other-that-much friendship, they want to ring me up every day and talk about guys which makes me feel so much shitter.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Background: 23, good degree from prestigious uni, dream job. Virgin, never been kissed, never had a girlfriend. :crying:

    I can't cope anymore with lovely girls telling me every single day that they can't believe I'm still single despite the fact they'd never be interested themselves.

    I can't cope anymore with being a well-known socialite but leaving every party alone whilst everyone else is hooked up.


    You sound like a fat ugly bloke I know, only he paid a whore to relieve him of his virginity.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    do you actually remain friends with these girls? You never know....apart from that there's nothing else anyone can suggest tbh, as the answer always seems to be 'they just want to be friends'
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Have met quite a few from all three of those sites. As I said before exactly same thing happens whether I meet girls off the internet or out clubbing. They just want to be friends. And not only do they just want a standard don't-see-each-other-that-much friendship, they want to ring me up every day and talk about guys which makes me feel so much shitter.

    Well what usually happens? Do you try it on and they knock you back? Do you meet up just as friends and then nothing develops? Do these girls who call you up everyday to talk about other guys know that you fancy them? I can't imagine they would, surely they would have some tact.
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