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Completely unfanciable. I'm going to top myself.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Yup, story of my life. They know I'd love to go out with them, and I get totally used as the chump who fixes them up with my guy friends who they then often pull or go out with. Which is why I just want to shun my female friends who use me like that and make me feel like shit going on about how they can't believe I'm single. Hello?

    fuck them. they are not friends. I wouldn't spend any time with them. this might be a bit unrelated, but I have a great and big circle of true friends and hanging out with them makes me often forget that I am single and desire to be in a relationship as well. If I'd be only on my own or with 'friends' like you have them I'd be miserable all the time. Going out with my homeys getting wasted and doing crap as if we were still 17 beats going out with a girl (on a few areas at least ;)). Moreover the only girls I ever had a fling with (with a very few exceptions), where girls who were introduced to me by friends. Either friend's friends, friend's collegues, friend's collegue's friends etc. It's a nearly a undwindling source, since they are all on different unis in different courses.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery, do you have male friends that you go out with?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    Well what usually happens? Do you try it on and they knock you back? Do you meet up just as friends and then nothing develops? Do these girls who call you up everyday to talk about other guys know that you fancy them? I can't imagine they would, surely they would have some tact.

    my thoughts...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote: »
    do you actually remain friends with these girls? You never know....apart from that there's nothing else anyone can suggest tbh, as the answer always seems to be 'they just want to be friends'
    For the last few years yeah there are a handful I've remained good friends with, despite my upset and frustration they're not interested in me. Lots of people seem to assume there's stuff going on, they often come back to mine, sleep in the same bed etc cos we're apparantly such close friends. But I'm thinking now to shun them all, not pick up their calls, not go out for a drink whenever they want to meet up as I just get more and more upset, frustrated and hurt, and that overrides any positives of friendship.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    Well what usually happens? Do you try it on and they knock you back? Do you meet up just as friends and then nothing develops? Do these girls who call you up everyday to talk about other guys know that you fancy them? I can't imagine they would, surely they would have some tact.
    First time we ever meet up it's never crystal clear if it's just as friends or something more - surely at that stage you don't know, you need to check each other out.. and then yeah I try it on, whether that's trying to pull them when we're tipsy on the dancefloor or telling them in person I like them, and get knocked back. Yes, you'd think they'd have some tact, when I've told a few I don't want to hear about their guy issues they get upset saying I'm being selfish, ridiculous, or "how are we supposed to be friends if I can't talk to you about that, I need a guy so much..." :banghead:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote: »
    Jomery, do you have male friends that you go out with?
    Don't really have lads nights out as most of my male friends are taken. I'm in a few friendship groups which all seem to be female-heavy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    First time we ever meet up it's never crystal clear if it's just as friends or something more - surely at that stage you don't know, you need to check each other out.. and then yeah I try it on

    Personally, a guy just trying it on with me would really put me off.

    How about getting to know girls as friends first then see where it heads?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    despite my upset and frustration they're not interested in me.

    not despite of, exactly THEREFORE they aren't.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    First time we ever meet up it's never crystal clear if it's just as friends or something more - surely at that stage you don't know, you need to check each other out.. and then yeah I try it on, whether that's trying to pull them when we're tipsy on the dancefloor or telling them in person I like them, and get knocked back. Yes, you'd think they'd have some tact, when I've told a few I don't want to hear about their guy issues they get upset saying I'm being selfish, ridiculous, or "how are we supposed to be friends if I can't talk to you about that, I need a guy so much..." :banghead:

    not be friends with them because they're not interested in you? Jeez you need to get this chip off your shoulder.
    Though i think sleeping in the same bed and stuff is pushing it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Perhaps people think you're gay? Do you wear expensive clothes? Do you keep yourself looking good physically? Maybe you're giving off a gay sort of vibe?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote: »
    not be friends with them because they're not interested in you? Jeez you need to get this chip off your shoulder.
    Be "friends" as in talk to them normally if we see each other in groups out etc. I'm just fed up of wasting my time with them ringing me up all the time to talk about guys, wanting to meet up so much for dinner/drinks where they talk about guys and wanting a bf, who they pulled etc, just makes me feel shit. What's the point in spending time doing something if it makes you feel shit?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Perhaps people think you're gay? Do you wear expensive clothes? Do you keep yourself looking good physically? Maybe you're giving off a gay sort of vibe?
    I do all that but have never been asked if I'm gay or there been any rumours like that, I'm err 'metrosexual'.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Be "friends" as in talk to them normally if we see each other in groups out etc. I'm just fed up of wasting my time with them ringing me up all the time to talk about guys, wanting to meet up so much for dinner/drinks where they talk about guys and wanting a bf, who they pulled etc, just makes me feel shit. What's the point in spending time doing something if it makes you feel shit?

    Maybe if you tell them to stop doing this you, they might stop doing that? Or just ignore them - they'll get the message soon hopefully...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Metrosexual. I think that could be part of the problem. People must think you're gay.

    From what you've described, your girl-friends seem to see you as their gay guy friend who they share their innermost secrets with and share beds with, but don't worry about it because "you're gay" to them?

    (I'm not accusing you of being camp or anything, it's just a possibility as the whole thread has pretty much ruled out every other possible explanation!)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Be "friends" as in talk to them normally if we see each other in groups out etc. I'm just fed up of wasting my time with them ringing me up all the time to talk about guys, wanting to meet up so much for dinner/drinks where they talk about guys and wanting a bf, who they pulled etc, just makes me feel shit. What's the point in spending time doing something if it makes you feel shit?

    once again, stop associating with those people, or have a serious word with them.

    "Yea, sucks to be single huh? Now tell me why I should listen to your sulking when I am single and miserable about it myself..."
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hey

    can I just clairfy with some of these posts here.

    basically a lot of peoplel are syaing "go out, cluubing an dwhat not and try with all the girls, even if its 10 girls in a night or more, eventually you will get one"

    is that right?

    doesn't THAT come across as desperate?

    Wouldn't girls see you trying with other girl sin a club and when you fail , see it and know your only after a girl rather then them?

    please clarify.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doomsday wrote: »
    hey

    can I just clairfy with some of these posts here.

    basically a lot of peoplel are syaing "go out, cluubing an dwhat not and try with all the girls, even if its 10 girls in a night or more, eventually you will get one"

    is that right?

    doesn't THAT come across as desperate?

    Wouldn't girls see you trying with other girl sin a club and when you fail , see it and know your only after a girl rather then them?

    please clarify.

    To me it would come across as being desparate.

    I think you should join a club of some sort (like a sports club) so that you can meet new people.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think getting more male friends rather than being the guy who girls come to to talk about who they fancy would be a step in the right direction.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Great advice, except I'm in the middle of a three year graduate training programme, and have exams now and then, and get a qualification at the end, it's not something I can pack in and come back whenever I want and carry on where I left off! At the end of it maybe, though that's a while away.

    So shooting yourself is an option but quitting the job isn't? :confused:

    I think the problem is that you just need to relax - you seem to be the kind of person who thinks only in terms of targets...go to that uni, get that degree make so much in my first year, sleep with x many girls by the time I'm 25 etc etc

    Some things you can't get from drive and ambition. Stop thinking of every party/night out/new female in your life is a chance to get laid and have some fun mate!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jon_UK wrote: »
    So shooting yourself is an option but quitting the job isn't? :confused:

    I think the problem is that you just need to relax - you seem to be the kind of person who thinks only in terms of targets...go to that uni, get that degree make so much in my first year, sleep with x many girls by the time I'm 25 etc etc

    Some things you can't get from drive and ambition. Stop thinking of every party/night out/new female in your life is a chance to get laid and have some fun mate!

    Being that ^^^ target driven is bad, and very off putting. Having a rough plan is fine, but if you do it in fine precision its even worse If you come across as desperate, which you seem to be, puts women off even quicker. If you cant leave your job try at least a couple of weeks holiday and a quick bit of travlling may help.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Metrosexual. I think that could be part of the problem. People must think you're gay.

    From what you've described, your girl-friends seem to see you as their gay guy friend who they share their innermost secrets with and share beds with, but don't worry about it because "you're gay" to them?

    (I'm not accusing you of being camp or anything, it's just a possibility as the whole thread has pretty much ruled out every other possible explanation!)
    Yeah you're totally right, whilst they know very well I'm not gay I'm treated exactly the same as a gay best friend. I've become less sweet/caring/sensitive and more macho/sexual/etc but nothing's changed on that front. :banghead:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jon_UK wrote: »
    I think the problem is that you just need to relax - you seem to be the kind of person who thinks only in terms of targets...go to that uni, get that degree make so much in my first year, sleep with x many girls by the time I'm 25 etc etc
    Yeah you're spot on, I'm completely target driven. Had academic targets throughout school/uni, had target to have £100k in my bank account by 22, become Vice President of my company by 25, so yes the "notches on the bedpost" / "magic number" being 0 is depressing, but exacerbated by people asking about it all the time!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    exacerbated by people asking about it all the time!

    Tell them to fuck off. Or say "just the one...your mum" - it rhymes, its big and its clever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That is fucking hilarious :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    being 0 is depressing, but exacerbated by people asking about it all the time!

    what kind of dickheads do you associate? I have never been asked that, except my girlfriends and they did not effing care, or just the occasional tipsy-in-the-pub-chatting-with-a-girl-and-taking-convo-a-tad-under-the-surface-thing.

    Who the heck cares about that stuff? fuck them.... those are not your friends. those are buddies to go out and drink or ask any random chitchat crap, but not friends.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi Jomery I feel there is so much I want to say to you but don’t know where to begin or even if you will listen.
    Calvin wrote: »
    If you only read one thing... read this article which someone posted to the thread hornet created not long ago.

    Its a really good article (promise)

    http://www.howtobecooler.com/virgin

    Its honest so be prepared to accept what you read.

    :thumb:
    Just read this it well help, then after that read all your own posts you’ve sent on this thread to yourself out loud.

    I really do think you need to get a new set of friends or make contact with your old ones, your true friends cos these people don’t appear to define the word friendship. Try to limit they time you socialise with these people and find other interests. Just find new people, different from those at work, likeminded people who wont make you feel inferior.

    I was in the same position when I was at Uni, just wanted to get laid (only cos the people i was around made me think this way). It almost happened once cos I wanted to get my own back on one of my house mates and her friends cos they all like this guy and I was the only one he would pay attention too and could relate with. Don't wanna go into too much detail but we were gonna do the friends with benefits thing but I realised that having sex to prove how fancy able I was, wasn’t gonna solve anything. But I guess your gonna have to find that out for yourself cos know amount of posts is gonna convince you otherwise (tell me if I’m miss judging you).

    Eventually you well find a girl at a club who is just looking for sex, then what?.. Oh you wont be a virgin, yeh, then what?... Are you gonna win a trip around the world, are your favourite band gonna play live in your front room?

    Im sorry I don’t want to seem heartless here cos I do understand but your gonna have to set better goals for your self than just getting laid.

    1) GET RID OF THOSE NEGATIVE PEOPLE
    2) ENJOY BEING SINGLE IT CAN BE SO MUCH FUN!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sofie wrote: »
    To me it would come across as being desparate.

    I think you should join a club of some sort (like a sports club) so that you can meet new people.

    umm I asking for clarification on the subject, not saying I did it or anything.....

    I dont think there are many clubs for people in their 20's to join tho lol.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with noangle's statement. I always say: sex is like oxygen, it's just becoming and issue if you're not getting any.

    After a long (and I mean loooooong) dryspell I had a mindblowing partner, but 3 days after it ended I was like "I don't feel any different from before."

    Of course you cannot tell that to someone who has never experienced it, but still... a demonic circle, the more you desperately crave for it, the harder it is to achieve.

    oh and I think it's wasn't a joke to PM noangel and ask her out,... that's not even coincidence, that's omen, dude.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That http://www.howtobecooler.com is an amazing link, going to spend all night reading every article...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    That http://www.howtobecooler.com is an amazing link, going to spend all night reading every article...

    Tell me about it. Im in the same position, i think its one of the most important articles i have ever read about the subject.

    There are loads more articles to read, read em all. It made me feel better.

    :thumb:
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