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Is everyone busy farming crops in today's society? or are they busy working their arses off for someone else?
Much the same as happens now then when people travel to other countries.
We've already dealt with this.
Granted, I don't know how we get there from here. But it seems to me that its what most people want - to have more control on their own lives. Don't you?
Farmers was just an example, but people would need to work to provide the community with various things they need from clothes to computers.
I would hope that there would be no coercion into it - because you are a libertarian after all. (even though libertarian-socialism is a contradiction)
Good one mat!
I told you already today, if you don't engage with what I actually post then you come off looking like a prick.
Oh, you mean when you said this ? :
Thanks for clearing that up : You have no idea how we'd reach your utopia.
Which is why I've said it's better to improve today's world than hope for tomorows world.
No, I don't. So? What I do think we can do is to look at ways people can have more say in their everday lives. Whether this is through community organisations, unions, co-ops, tenants associations is irrelevant. Anarchism is a political system, but it is also a way of relating to the world.
Do you agree that the changes you are proposing would result in large scale changes in the distribution of resources, wealth and property?
:shocking:
You really are a nutter
No, you haven't actually read any of my posts. Ever.
Do you enjoy looking like a complete and utter prick?
So the community comes to a decision about stuff ... ie say theres gona be a meeting about err how many sheep should be put in a field...
say 50 ppl vote that 10 sheep should be put in ....20 people vote that 20 sheep should be put in... SHIT what do we do, the community cant agree
Maybe we could go with the majority?? but no everyone doesnt have their own authority ...if we did that then we'd effectively be taking the authority away from the ones that disagreed.
Sorry for the bad example i couldnt think of anything else ...but ure idea is really the dodgiest thing i've ever heard. Why would everyone agree?
How can everyone be their own authority if everyone is different? someone will always end up in a position of more power.
Ok but he has a fair point, what happens when there is general dissagreement among the community. How does it get resolved? Majority rule?
Then you'll be debating till the cows come home in some aspects.
Yes decisions get made by our elected representatives. If we don't like them, we vote for someone else or abstain.
But how do those elected representatives make decisions? They debate and vote. Why should it be any different?
Way to miss the point.
But in an anarachist system would there not be people in positions of power. How can you expect 10,000 people in a town to come to a mutual agreement. There must be people to represent the viewpoints of the people.
you CANNOT have an effective community where everyone has their own equal authority and has equal influence. (in our current society)
Even small things like peoples personalities...if a person with influence and charisma advises you to do / what to do u will take that advice...if they say it meakly u probly wont. Those two people wouldnt have the same power.
Agreement on what? Workplaces would run themselves, communities would run themselves etc. It would be bottom up organisation rather than top down.
Yes, you hit the nail on the head there - "in our current society".
Yes I do agree that some people are more confident, charismatic etc. Meetings would need good facilitators. Have you any experience of group work or meetings? A good chair makes sure that everyones view gets heard. I'm not saying its easy, but I'm wondering why you'd rather complete strangers make the decisions that affect you rather than you having a say?
Yes but don't you think that the runnings off all these things intertwine and affect the runnings of each other. Surely it's better to have a set rule of laws rather than have a debate everytime a conflict arises.
Ok you got me! Still it's all well and good having these ideals...but you must admit yourself we'll be long dead before we live in that world again.