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A clean break from family

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    1andonly said it would be a "massive thing", that's probably where I got it from.

    Dont listen to her, she's talking rubbish, people move to London all the time, its expensive though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair enough the moving away part, people do that all the time, but i really dont get the whole 'never speaking to them again' why, it's like so extreme?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Dont listen to her, she's talking rubbish, people move to London all the time, its expensive though.
    I noticed that just staying there for a few days. My wallet is gonna take a hammering from this!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well i personally find moving out etc or moving to a different city, or changing jobs a big change. it is a milestone in life, just like getting married. I don't think where you move matters. Why do you think it's not a big deal? it's the first time you'll be dealing with everything on your own, paying for your own and owning your own house etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well i personally find moving out etc or moving to a different city, or changing jobs a big change. it is a milestone in life, just like getting married. I don't think where you move matters. Why do you think it's not a big deal? it's the first time you'll be dealing with everything on your own, paying for your own and owning your own house etc.
    You're scaring me now!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well i personally find moving out etc or moving to a different city, or changing jobs a big change. it is a milestone in life, just like getting married. I don't think where you move matters. Why do you think it's not a big deal? it's the first time you'll be dealing with everything on your own, paying for your own and owning your own house etc.

    You're scaring the little fella, he's too young for that sort of responsibility.

    I dont really think its a big deal because by age 18 you should be able to cook and look after yourself anyway whether your parents are there or not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    I dont really think its a big deal because by age 18 you should be able to cook and look after yourself anyway whether your parents are there or not.
    Were you able to? Seems a fair question to ask.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    You're scaring me now!

    Lol why are you scared? You're planning on moving out so if you're scared by what im saying, then maybe you've not thought through moving out properly?! i do hope you're joking.

    Being able to look after yourself is one thing, actually getting out and doing it on your own without the backup is slightly different.

    It's not a Big Big Thing. but if moving out isn't a big deal? what is? it's only a big deal in a certain way.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Were you able to? Seems a fair question to ask.

    Yes, I couldnt iron very well, but I could cook (enough to get by and be healthy). I went traveling for 4 months with no problems and then off to uni living by myself.

    Some people are closer to their parents though I guess.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yep i am also able to do it on my own. I am incredibly close to my parents at the moment, yet i am also over the other side of the world from them and managing. So it can be done!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Yes, I couldnt iron very well, but I could cook (enough to get by and be healthy).
    Well, if that's what you're asking me, yes, I can cook okay. Same with ironing for me. Must get more practice.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    You're scaring me now!

    What the fuck did you expect then? For-Hire parents who will do that shit for you while you sit on your arse?

    With being on your own comes a fuck load of responsibilty. Deal with it, or grow up more, then think about moving out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What the fuck did you expect then? For-Hire parents who will do that shit for you while you sit on your arse? With being on your own comes a fuck load of responsibilty. Deal with it, or grow up more, then think about moving out.
    Oh, shut up. Do you honestly think I haven't thought about these things? Don't be so ridicilous. I made that "scaring me now" comment in jest, as a joke. But it seems I'm not allowed to do that with prats like you on the boards.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It sure as hell doesn't seem like you've thought it through. 'Cause if you had, you'd have realised you're gonna have to do everything yourself. And since you're pretty much disowning you're family, it's only gonna make it 10 times harder.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It sure as hell doesn't seem like you've thought it through. 'Cause if you had, you'd have realised you're gonna have to do everything yourself. And since you're pretty much disowning your family, it's only gonna make it 10 times harder.
    Obviously you haven't bothered to read this thread, so maybe I should enlighten you. I've decided against the idea. I won't be "disowning" anyone, as you put it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    I'm beginning to suspect this may not have been the ideal solution as I first thought.

    It isn't. It's a terrible idea.

    You'll probably get on better with them when you live miles away.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Exactly my fucking point. You obviously never thought that through very well, because when you think something through properly, you weigh up the pros and cons. It took all the people in this thread to make you realise it would be a mistake for various reasons.

    You were only thinking about the pros, if you'd have thought about the cons yourself, you wouldn't have needed other people to tell you them.

    As much as I like doing it, I'm not having a go at you here. I'm trying to make you realise you can't rush into life-changing decisions without thinking about every aspect of it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Obviously you haven't bothered to read this thread, so maybe I should enlighten you. I've decided against the idea. I won't be "disowning" anyone, as you put it.


    yes you might've changed your mind but the fact that you even considered it is beyond me.

    there are places in the UK other than london, you know.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yes you might've changed your mind but the fact that you even considered it is beyond me.

    there are places in the UK other than london, you know.
    Of course, I'm not seriously saying it is. Hell, if there's somewhere else out there that I can make a decent living in, I might go there instead. As for me considering the idea, I can understand what you're saying.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    much as you might think you're ready, leaving home is a bit of a shock. i was 21 when i left, i was a big girl and i could cook and clean and look after myself, but i still found myself ringing home every few days for the first month, at least, asking random questions like how long you need to boil an egg for, and who to ring about the random cooker in the front garden.

    if you are going to live on your own, it'll be weird and it'll be lonely (i lived in a shared house less than 10 miles from my parents and i still got a bit homesick). you are going to need that support network.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kaffrin wrote:
    if you are going to live on your own, it'll be weird and it'll be lonely (i lived in a shared house less than 10 miles from my parents and i still got a bit homesick). you are going to need that support network.
    I can't argue with that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    there are places in the UK other than london, you know.

    :lol:

    :o Where? Are they civilised?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bad seed wrote:
    :lol:

    :o Where? Are they civilised?


    yes, we got the wheel recently!

    (my brother in law who is a londoner jokes that the north only just heard about the wheel, pah).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wow I can't believe this thread...I think that you must be a very confused young man. I previously suggested that cutting all ties with your family was a terrible idea, I'm glad you have come to your senses about that as to be honest I really think it would have been a very very selfish thing to have done.

    But I don't think you have any idea how hard moving out of home and becoming independent can be. I think you seriously need to think about it, I have spent years getting in debt to pay for food, to pay for bills to keep a roof over my head and I have spent years getting out of debt so I can live happily without the constant stress of debt over my head. Thousands of people live life like this so make sure you have a job before you move to London so it doesn't happen to you, and if it does happen to you, you will really need the support of your family so at least you haven't disowned them, because then that would be a very lonely route. Are you prepared for that!

    Have you found somewhere to live, have you saved for a deposit, what about furniture, do you have any idea how to go about renting a property, if you have friends to stay with then great as this is quite a challenging task. Have you thought about where abouts in London you should be moving to, if you don't do your research you could end up in a bad area, or a really high council tax area. Make sure you are prepared! Do you know how to budget, do you know how to set up gas, electric, tv liscence, telephone line. Have you thought about these things as your family will probably be able to advise you and help you, perhaps you should start looking out for the best rates.

    I seriously don't think you should be thinking about relocating without some help from someone and usually family is best for this. I can't understand why you haven't sat down with them and told them your plans, you are acting really selfishly and you need to get out of your bubble and really think about how your actions can effect others.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yes, we got the wheel recently!

    (my brother in law who is a londoner jokes that the north only just heard about the wheel, pah).

    Yorkshire has running water :D

    London water is horrible, by the way :yuck:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kaffrin wrote:
    if you are going to live on your own, it'll be weird and it'll be lonely (i lived in a shared house less than 10 miles from my parents and i still got a bit homesick). you are going to need that support network.

    Like I said, some people are closer to their parents than others. It wouldnt really cross my mind to phone my parents if a cooker appeared in my front garden.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well for one if you have tried to commit suicide before, are you sure you are strong enough to move away by yourself and start all over again, from experience of knowing two people who have commited suicide, it was because they were alone and didnt have the support of their family........ the fact that your family are walking on egg shells just shows you how worried they are about you, so fix up and think about the consequences of your actions, stop being selfish and look around you, your family obviously love you so why would you even consider breaking all ties???!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it is unwise to have a clean break from your family. Yes, things has been difficult and you may feel that you are unable to get on with them etc. If you are thinking of moving away, then yes, that may be an option, but to cut all ties is very unwise imo.

    I found moving away and renting privately helped me a lot. I was still in London, but detached and I found my relationship with my parents was so much easier. I had the freedom to do what I wanted, when I wanted and my family also had time to appriciate and value my non-existance in their home. Coming home for weekends was a joy, because I no longer lived there. But I couldn't imagine never seeing my family again, for whatever reason. Even tho they have been difficult at times they have also helped me with a lot of my probems in the past/present.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks for your replies. I just wanted to reply to this post:
    Pink_Angel wrote:
    Have you found somewhere to live, have you saved for a deposit, what about furniture, do you have any idea how to go about renting a property, if you have friends to stay with then great as this is quite a challenging task. Have you thought about where abouts in London you should be moving to, if you don't do your research you could end up in a bad area, or a really high council tax area. Make sure you are prepared! Do you know how to budget, do you know how to set up gas, electric, tv liscence, telephone line. Have you thought about these things as your family will probably be able to advise you and help you, perhaps you should start looking out for the best rates.
    Asnwering everything in order - no, haven't found anywhere just yet, yes I've been saving up. I've been speaking to a letting agency recently who explained to me how the system works, they were very helpful. I don't have friends in London, (none I can move in with at least) and I can't bring anyone with me.
    Pink_Angel wrote:
    I seriously don't think you should be thinking about relocating without some help from someone and usually family is best for this. I can't understand why you haven't sat down with them and told them your plans, you are acting really selfishly and you need to get out of your bubble and really think about how your actions can effect others.
    Reason is that my family and me don't get on. As a family, we never talk about anything. Things like subjects for GCSEs, A Levels, careers and the like... I haven't had one discussion with my parents about this. I really don't want to tell them. But I suppose I'll have to.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi

    people always bang on about blood being thicker than water but sometimes I think it is silly to assume that just because you are related you HAVE to get on. I've been having a hard time recently with a member of my family and it's got to the point that I just don't know what else to say to him. Luckily for me I am old enough to have my own mortgage, career and friends so if I don't want to mix with him I don't have to (Apart from family occassions like Xmas).

    It's his birthday next week and I will be sending him a card, but I don't think I'll be making special efforts to socialise with him.

    The thing you probably have to remember is that if you do deliberately cut ties, then you will have to miss occassions like death or birth or marriage, and if something does go seriously wrong you won't have your family to fall back on.

    Perhaps your family are just very worried about you - maybe you need to open up a bit more about your experiences and feelings. Is it likely you will try to kill yourself again, can you be honest with them about the help you need?
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