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A clean break from family

I've hesitated for a long time before posting this. It's an issue which I've been thinking about for quite a while. I've discussed it with some friends, and it's got a mixed set of answers from them.

It's to do with my relationship with my family. Over the last few years, me and depression has really changed the relationship between us all. My mum told me a few months back that after I attempted suicide, my immediate family were always walking on egg-shells, terrified I might try again. No one outside immediate family knows about my attempt, I've never told them. This is just one of the changes. With me starting work and thinking of moving to London, things have not been the same. A lot of changes have been good but not all of them.

I hate to say this, but there are moments which I feel absolutely fed-up of the mere sight of my family. I’ve been contemplating making a clean break from them altogether. In other words, what I've been thinking of doing is moving away from them and cutting all means of contact with family, and never seeing them again. I think the term is ‘estrangement’. I just don't know whether I should go ahead with this or not. :(

Any replies to this entry will be appreciated.
Stargalaxy, xxx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nar I don't think you should cut ties with them all together. Family is important and obviously I don't know your circumstances but it sounds like they have tried to support you and I think it would be a terrible thing to push them out of your life.

    Growing up and moving away and starting a life of your own however is a good idea, this will probably make you and your family closer as you will have the chance to live independently and when you see your family it will be because you want to see them...not because you have to like at the moment.

    Even if you feel like you don't want them around right now in a years time or two years time your lifestyle might have changed and you might wish you had never cut ties and by then it could be too late.

    I think you just need a break from them and that is totally normal as a young adult you probably just need to spread your wings and get some independence of your own and prove to yourself that you can look after yourself and stuff.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A bit extreme possibly. But I'm sure you could cut contact with them for a few months or something, not forever. I don't think removing them from your life is the solution.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pink Angel is right, once you've left home you might well feel differently towards them. Don't burn any bridges unnecessarily.
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    I have already told you that I think this is a bit extreme. If you are sure you wanna do this, do it in stages. Move out, keep in touch. Things may be different when you find a place of your own.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My mum and her sister when they lived together used to fight like cat and dog, they were always at eachothers throats. In other words they hated the sight of eachother. When my aunt moved fromlondon to halifax their relationship became ever so strong and they ended up being best mates. Is amazing how good a few hundred miles can be for a family relationship.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When i was 17 the relationship i had with my parents really deteriated due to my depression to the point where everything was so complicated that even making mundane pleasentries would turn into a seriously heavy argument.
    After one particular argument where my parents both accused me of being a drug addict [when at that point in time i had given up drugs] i packed my bags and left the next morning without saying goodbye or even letting them know what i was doing.
    I hadnt got anything planned and had no money.Thankfully things turned out ok.I moved into a bedsit and worked fulltime which was ok.But i didnt talk to my parents or let them know where i was for over 4 months.Infact it wasnt until one day my dad saw me in town that he begged me to come home and see my mum that evening.So i did and gradually we built up a relationship again and 2 months after that i moved back home.
    Those 4 months were some of the worst of my life so far.But there is no doubt in my mind that if i hadnt left when i did something serious would have happened and we would never have spoken again.
    Since moving back in with my parents the relationship has changed so much.i feel so much closer to them and have found great strength from them.
    Maybe a break from your family is what you need to help put things in perspective,but dont break tyes completly.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why are you being so dramatic about everything?

    What did your family ever do to you that is so bad that they deserve to lose their son/grandson/etc ??

    Everyone gets annoyed by their family, everyone gets sick of living with them at some point. Its why we move out. Theres so need to create un-necessary hurt.

    Unless they did something *really* bad (like try to kill you/abuse you/other extreme stuff) then you have no excuse to do this to your family.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What a fantastic way to pay back your family for giving you a home and security all these years!

    Do move away, don't cut ties, do grow up a bit (and I don't mean that in a condecending/irritating way ... i mean that as in learn to live by yourself and without relying on your parents). I suspect you'll find you get on a lot better with family when your not living with them full time!

    Remember ... you owe them, big time! Don't be a selfish and spoiled brat about things. If you can't live with them fine move out but don't abandon them
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :eek2: at this post.

    i appreciate that family can be annoying as hell sometimes (i have moments of wanting to push mine over cliffs) but realistically, would you honestly be happy to never see them again??

    people normally cut all ties with family after they have done things they can't forgive them for. from your post, all i can see is that yours are a little irritating and very worried about you. what's so wrong about that?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think its pretty childish to do something so extreme unless there is a really valid reason why you need to do it it is normal to move away and get some experience of life... etc etc etc. but i lost my family (i.e. my dad) and i didn't have much choice in the matter, even though it got me away from being abused. i mean, shit like this makes me angry because you just don't appreciate the family you've got... yes your family probably do feel like they are "treading on egg shells" around you, they probably don't want to upset you or are concerned for you... which i think is perfectly normal and quite supportive, even if its pissing you off... you need to deal with it another way rather than running away from it. :impissed:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Otter speaks the truth.
    What seems right at this moment in time will soon change in the future.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I would never cut all ties with the people who've given me so much. Regardless of how much they make me want to stab them at times.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jon_UK wrote:
    What a fantastic way to pay back your family for giving you a home and security all these years! Remember ... you owe them, big time!
    How?
    Blah wrote:
    What did your family ever do to you that is so bad that they deserve to lose their son/grandson/etc?
    They don't "deserve" to lose anyone as such. I never said that.

    Thanks for the replies.
    Danny, xxx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Running away never solves problems, it might make them go away for a short time but doing what you are thinking about isnt really going to get you anywhere.

    All I wanna say is that my Mother died in April this year and im never gonna see her again, thats not a nice thought and if I could turn the clock back she would be here today. I know we all have family troubles, you aint alone on that one but try to work at it. Just grin and bear it while you are at home, things surely cant be that bad ?

    So what if you move away and cut all ties what is that gonna acheive ?

    I remember when I was 16/17 I was a stroppy teenager, I knew everything and I was gonna have the last word. So I left home and never spoke to my parents for quite a while. I never knew what I put them through till i was older and it hit me more when I had my daughter, then I realised moreso what I had put them through.

    My advice is if you want to move away then make sure you have somewhere to go. Make that break but please dont dissown the family. Let them know where you are, let them know you are ok but dont turn your back on them because London may be a great place but it can also be very lonely moving to a place as big as this.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    BeckyBoo wrote:
    My advice is if you want to move away then make sure you have somewhere to go. Make that break but please dont dissown the family. Let them know where you are, let them know you are ok but dont turn your back on them because London may be a great place but it can also be very lonely moving to a place as big as this.
    I'm aware that London can be pretty lonely - it's what several people I know from there tell me. Seven and a half million people yet still lonely. Anyway, this is one issue I've been having difficulty with. It's quite possible I may have moved within about two months from now and I don't know whether to tell them. And how do I tell them I never want to speak to them again? Two main reasons why I'm struggling with this issue.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    And how do I tell them I never want to speak to them again?

    You be truthful, tell them you are leaving and off you go....simple.

    but dont forget that your family are gonna be pretty worried, they are gonna be wondering where you are, if you are ok, are you in any trouble, if theres any more bombs in London are you dead or alive...............do I really need to continue ?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    BeckyBoo wrote:
    You be truthful, tell them you are leaving and off you go....simple.
    but dont forget that your family are gonna be pretty worried, they are gonna be wondering where you are, if you are ok, are you in any trouble, if theres any more bombs in London are you dead or alive...............do I really need to continue ?
    I don't know how I can say that to my parents without appearing like a right bastard. Then again, some people might think that of me for even considering this in the first place. :( I remember last time I went to London was eight days after the July 7th bombings. On Friday afternoon, I was doing some shopping in Oxford Circus when suddenly I receive a phone call. It was my mum telling me there's been a bomb scare in St James' Park, asking if anything had happened, and whether I was okay. :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    I don't know how I can say that to my parents without appearing like a right bastard. Then again, some people might think that of me for even considering this in the first place.

    i can't understand it at all, tbh. i don't see why it's necessary. wanting to get away is fair enough, but couldn't you just tell them you're going away and you want some space, but to tell them you never want to see them again? :shocking:

    i just know if i had a child who said that to me i would be absolutely devastated.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    On Friday afternoon, I was doing some shopping in Oxford Circus when suddenly I receive a phone call. It was my mum telling me there's been a bomb scare in St James' Park, asking if anything had happened, and whether I was okay. :(

    Cos she would probably have been shitting herself and if she couldnt have contacted you on the phone she would be phoning every available helpline/hospital to try and find out anything she could.

    Just sommat for you to think about but take my hubby (and this is a true story btw) the other day took Daughter to school in the car. He is normally back home by 9:00am, 9:20am arrived and he still wasnt home.........in my head he had been in an accident, was he ok, was Becks ok ? at 9:25 I was just about to phone school to see wether Becks was at school when he walked through the door.....I wont repeat what i said to him.

    mothers are born worriers, we just dont tell our family/kids how much though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kaffrin wrote:
    i just know if i had a child who said that to me i would be absolutely devastated.
    That's worrying me now. :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    That's worrying me now. :(

    what do you expect they would feel?!!?!

    'oh, well it's been nice knowing you. have a nice life!' :wave:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kaffrin wrote:
    what do you expect they would feel?!!?!
    'oh, well it's been nice knowing you. have a nice life!' :wave:
    I'm beginning to suspect this may not have been the ideal solution as I first thought.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kaffrin wrote:
    i just know if i had a child who said that to me i would be absolutely devastated.


    :yes: Gosh yeah! You need to think how you would feel if you had brought up a person for twenty years and they suddenly just leave and tell you they never want to be contacted again. Just think of all the stuff your family have done for you.

    From what you've said, it's obvious your family really care about you so if you want to get away don't cut all ties with them, just think how they are going to feel. You need to tell them you need your own space for a while and as someone previously said, your feelings towards your family might change if you're not living under the same roof.

    I think you need to sit down and have a serious talk with your parents about your feelings, it will be hard but moving away, especially to London is going to be a massive thing and is something that needs serious, serious thought but please don't cut off ties with your family, you are very lucky to have them and you never know when you will need them. Hope you get stuff sorted :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It might seem like a good idea at the time, when I left home it was several years before I made any regular effort to contact my parents, it was once a month maybe, sometimes less.

    But the distance is good, you can see them when you want to and for the period of time you want.

    And London can be lonely, but so can everywhere, London is NO different.

    Go to London but at least give your mum a call every couple of weeks.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think you'd be stupid to cut your ties completely. yes, maybe move away but don't not keep in contact with them. they're your family..all you have when it comes down to it. you attempted to commit suicide, this is never going to be an easy thing for anyone to deal with..even your family. they're right to think they have to walk on egg shells, anyone would. and also, surely if you've been down, you might not be in the right frame of mind. yes, by all means have a break..but don't push them out of your life completely!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thanks for all your replies. I still don't see just why it's such a big deal moving to London. Life may well be lonely in the big city, but I feel lonely out in the country too. However, after reading this thread, it's got me thinking. Also, following offline discussions recently with Nicebutdim23 and Malteser Monkay, I've decided not to go ahead with the estrangement idea.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    good good. i had written a big reply to this early on in the thread but my net cut off so you never got it lol. erm what do you mean about why is it a big deal? it's a big deal moving anywhere. whether its out to the country or somewhere different.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    erm what do you mean about why is it a big deal? it's a big deal moving anywhere. whether its out to the country or somewhere different.
    Why? I really don't understand this. All I'm doing is moving from one pile of bricks into another. Which just happens to be in the capital city. Where's the big deal in this?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Why? I really don't understand this. All I'm doing is moving from one pile of bricks into another. Which just happens to be in the capital city. Where's the big deal in this?

    Who ever said it was a big deal?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Who ever said it was a big deal?
    1andonly said it would be a "massive thing", that's probably where I got it from.
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