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And God may exist and be an evil bigotted git, who hates sodomy, sex before marriage, idolators etc (though just in case he's reading this I probably ought to say I don't think that's true and think he's a great deity - who wouldn't hold things like masturbation against me)
"I asked this guy, I said, 'Come on man, Dinosaur fossils. What's the deal?' 'Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith.' 'I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. You believe that?' 'Uh huh.' Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God might be fuckin' with our heads? Anyone have trouble sleeping restfully with that thought in their heads? God's running around, burrying fossils: 'Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha HA. Im a prankster god. I am killing me. Ho ho ho ho.' You know, you die, you go to St. Peter, 'Did you you believe in dinosaurs?" "Well, you know, there was fossils everywhere.' [Bill makes sound effects with his mic] KOOM Aaaahhhh. 'What are you, an idiot? God was FUCKING with you! Giant flying lizards, you moron! That's one of God's easiest jokes!' 'It seemed so plausibleeeee! Ahhhhhhhh!' Bound for the lake of fire. . . . While I appreciate your quiant traditions, supersitions, and, you know, I on the other hand am an evolved being who deals soley with the source of light which exists in all of us, in our own minds, no middle man required. [laughs] But anyway, I appreciate your little games and shit, you putting on the tie and going to church, a de da de da. But you know there's a LIVING GOD WHO WILL TALK DIRECTLY FUCKING TO YOU. Sorry, but not too many pages of the Bible that FORGOT TO MENTION DINOSAURS!"
RIP Bill.
Proven?
By whom. or are you believing what has been written?
Why is something more believable because a scientist says it is so?
I may be wrong but my understanding is that even evolution supports that...
carbon dating can prove how old something is, that's unequivocal proof, not some theory
not really, science can be proved with experiments and observation, the existence of God can only be believed if you have faith, there's no experiments you can do that prove there's a God, there are experiments you can do to tell how old the earth is.
I don't believe in an interventionist God
But I know, darling, that you do
But if I did I would kneel down and ask Him
Not to intervene when it came to you
Not to touch a hair on your head
To leave you as you are
And if He felt He had to direct you
Then direct you into my arms
Oddly enough I had that very song in my head when I was posting this:)
Turlough: you only have faith that that is the case. You read it in a book. The conspiracy nuts can write books saying that Interflora did 11/9 because of x, y and z.
You also seem to have been reading His Dark Materials. Which do raise some very interesting points about metaphysics and existence.
Aladdin: evolution would tend to support the idea that we did, in fact, come from a single couple. That's how survival of the fittest works.
Dinosaurs were never omitted by the bible, they just werent specifically mentioned. Reptiles were mentioned as coming before people, and that is all a dinosaur was. If that makes sense. The "days" of creation tend to support the idea of evolutionary periods.
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haha...i don't think a comparison like that is plausible, yes i heard about carbon dating on TV or read it in a book, the thing is, if i really wanted, i could go to a laboratory, find out the scientifics of it all and carry the experiment out myself, conspiracy theories and God are what could be out there, science is what's out there.
Where are reptiles mentioned in the Bible?
we dont know enough yet and i dont think you say "darwinian evolutionary theroy has flaws so therefore evolution didnt happen" as i reckon it happened but theres more than one factor involved, survival of the fittest is flung around, when its not the be all and end all of things
the bible says ...'everything was created through gods dynamic energy' ...sounds pretty scientiffic to me knowing what we know now.
god lives in the space betwween all the atoms ...for whoever was talking earlier about a universe without matter.
the human race coming from a single couple ...? evolusionists are now accepting another nail in the coffin of their 19th century theory ...
the genetic code ...must have been written and programmed by someone ...accidental chemical spillages do not dissolvce rocks and turn them into complex life forms.
if the human race didn't come from a single couple then what the hell do you believe ...that an improbable ...impossible series of accidents ...billions of them ...started creating humans all over the place!?
i veiw people who don't SEE creation as missing out on something very deep ...the fact that we are very very special and incredibly important creations ...
someone please show me where in the bible it says you will burn in hell for masturbating ...come on ...you all walk around with this mythical crap in your heads regarding god becuase ...of religion.
You tell me, you're the one stating it.
Which verse is that then?
Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.
It only seems to be the Jehova's Witnesses who have that translation.
Its called the internet maaaaan
its not carbon dating as that s only effective up to erm 5/6 half lives like erm 30,000yrs
you use elements like uranium to check how old the earth is, and if you analyse the moon, its the same age as the earth....
the earths erm 3.5 billion years old, the moon (as a seprate thing is 3 billion yrs old) and live is 2.5 billion years old
and the dating method is extremwly accurate
ps the figure im not too sure of as i havent read anything since doing my 1st year astronomy course at uni (which btw even said big bang was a theory, since we're yet to improve upon it)
the important thing is you cant say "we know what this is" - no reasonable scientist would ever say this for debatabal issues, since we really are unsure, there some are something like the almost uniform universe temperature which if current estimate of universe expansion are true, it couldnt work for example due to the distances being further than information could travel to form an equilibrium
we dont know, that isnt enough evidence to say god is at work, it just meansw e need to study and observe more to understand or get some idea of what is happening
and back on topic, as a scientist, the best way of describing god would be if you could observe all 4 dimnesions at once, since we can only see all 3
Just off by a billion years mate, 4.5 billion years is correct
It's all crap, i've read a good bit of the bible, and i'll admit some of it makes sense, in fact i draw a lot of my beliefs from it, but in reality most of it is complete balls!!!
But you cannot prove whether the actions you observe are "natural" or the result of divine intervention.
You can prove that if you release a ball from the top of the Eiffel Tower, it will fall to the ground. That's science. Science cannot explain why it happens, just record that it does and theorise the why.
Religion argues that the reason it fall is because God designed things that way.
When you take one arguement over the other, then you do so on the basis of faith. You believe one over the other, but both could equally be wrong.
haha you would not believe how much i'm laughing ritenow. partly cos i'm pissed but otherwise, anyone can say "God wants you to think this...bls bla bla" but lets look at life in reality, we dpon't nhave a fucking clue, not even a fuckin book can explain why we're here, i'd rather look at it from real pont of view than some "god put us here do question ourselves piunt of vieww' get real please
The existence of a deity is not dependant on any book, nor in any way relevant to any religion. You need to get away from that thought.