If you need urgent support, call 999 or go to your nearest A&E. To contact our Crisis Messenger (open 24/7) text THEMIX to 85258.
Read the community guidelines before posting ✨
Aged 16-25? Share your experience of using the discussion boards and receive a £25 voucher! Take part via text-chat, video or phone. Click here to find out more and to take part.
Options
Comments
I'm far more interested in the actual event.
I don't see the difference, but:
Such as?
Factoring in a deity would raise just as many questions as it would answer...like, where the hell did you come from then?
To quote Carl Sagan: "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it."
(not you personally Kermit - just in general, people have done).
We live, we die. That's it.. That's what I believe.
Ilora x
The same with the creation of life. I don't wish to argue that life as we know it was inevitable, but I personally feel it's a bit too much of a coincidence that life started and adapted so well.
I don't think we have an interfering God, but I do think there is one there. I base my understanding on the Christian God because I've been brought up in a Christian society; I do think that each religion brings something new to the table in terms of understanding.
I don't think a belief in God shows a lack of thinking or intelligence, and I find that view quite offensive.
lol i thought so, we could be here all day otherwise..........well like i said i left work a bit early cos i was pissed off, and about 2 minutes into my journey home i saw someone cycling towards me at a very slow pace, i thought nah it can't be mine thats completely wishful thinking.......then as he got a bit closer i saw it was darkish colour (mine's purple) mountain bike, but still i thought nah no way........he literally went right past me and i just stood there in shock.......went after him, said excuse me where'd you get that bike.......he replied very naturally, oh i just found it lying there at the train station, didn't i sweetheart? (was with his missus at the time).......i gave him a hard stare but im pretty good judge of character and i dont think it was him who nicked it, so i just explained that i'd just had it stolen (i was carrying my bicycle helmet in one hand so he couldn't really argue with that), and that i was about to lamp him because i thought i'd caught the thief..........my point is, i would never have gone down to the station to look for it, if anyone else had picked it up and gone another way, or if i hadnt been on that road within that time frame i would never have got it back.........i've put a lot of things down to coincidence in the past, but this was too remarkable for coincidence.......
Is that however mainly based on Humans inability to understand the time scale over which it happened?
On a related issue please answer this, do ghosts in anyway prove or disprove the existance of god,
If the soul exsists ie is more than just physical, some spiritual enterty that is different to the physical, if this exsists is there a god
So he just gave it to you? How singular.
how do you mean singular? he was pretty surprised at first and said are you sure it's yours? didn't take long to hand it over though, he seemed a fairly reasonable chap, mid to late 30s, typical working class londoner......easy come easy go i guess........
The hardship of following rules like "thou shalt not murder", eh?
I can see why people believe in fate, but sometimes its easy to confuse fortune with destiny.
And also the inability to look at the problem from a different angle. If life hadn't developed, then there's be no-one to ask the question - in effect we are asking the question simply because we exist. On a billion planets there is no-one to ask the question.
If life had developed differently we'd be asking why it developed in that manner.
It may also be the case that the Universe is naturally disposed towards creating life in the same way that bubbles are naturally disposed towards being spherical - long string proteins may develop because the Universe is conducive towards them doing so.
In an infinite universe it all makes sense.
Singular, as in 'this is a singular mystery Holmes' its an old term which I have picked up and trying to re-introduce back into common parlance, along with 'blighter'. Both are long overdue for a come back.
Theose who believe will go "OMG god exists k!!!" and those who don't will go "OMG god = lose!!11eleven!"
ah as in peculiar?........lol too old school for me mate, never heard of parlance either although i can extrapolate its meaning from the context......we finished hijacking this thread?
Singular as in, out of the ordinary, something that is singular, not common. It is far from saying 'thats a lie' more like 'that is an uncommon thing to happen' except it makes you sound like a 1930's dandy, which surely is a good thing.
Even if god exists, and even if he's alive today, and even if he's more or less the god described in, say, the bible (as opposed to the thousands of other religious texts giving rather different accounts that no doubt exist across the universe) I cannot help but see anyone who believes the tales found in religious books are the absolute truth as appallingly naive if not lacking in the braincell department.
That is to say, people who claim the earth was indeed created in six days as described in the bible, or that all mankind descends form a single couple created overnight by a deity. Or worse of all, that god actually gives a shit whether people masturbate, have sexual relations out of wedlock or enjoy same-sex relationship. In other words, people who take the tales found in Bible, Koran, Torah et al as 'the literal truth'.
People will interpret things in different ways. People will interpret things to suit their own advantage- sexual guilt is very useful for organised religion, which is why they all use it- but none of that disproves the existence of a deity.
Personally I don't think the Bible has all the answers, and nor does any other religious text read by itself.
Whilst I tend to agree that these are not bad things, the fact that some people use the bible to say that you'll burn in hell if you have sex out of wedlock doesn't disprove God. It might be that God actually does mean these things and many of us will in fact end up having a rather hot time come the day of judgement.
You can't proove or disproove God either way.
what about multi god systems like greeks and romans?
All they had was a God for every emotion. We just have one for the whole lot.
I believe that the concept of the 'Christian God' and 'Hell' are contradictory.
I also believe that the idea of an 'omnipotent/omnicognescent God' and 'freewill' are contradictory. If God is omnicognescent (i.e. knows everything) then he knows what my next action is going to be. If he knows what my next action was going to be, then I could not have acted any different. Therefore the future is already set in stone and I am not free.
ETA: greeks and romans used gods to explain natural occurances and where they couldn't explain things scientifically, so if it was stormy at sea, the god of water was angry etc etc, we've learned enough now to know it's how the world works so that doesn't fit, maybe we'll find out there is a God or is no God, then we'll laugh at how foolish the believers/atheists were
(Though of course in some cases they are actually rather intelligent; they just happen to be hate-consumed bigots who cynically use religion to further their odious agendas).
Seriously, Kermit, if you spend any more time in "Anything Goes" then i think i'm going to make you take a basic language course so you can get a basic grasp on the English language back.
If God is really all-knowing, all-powerful and perfect then he surely doesn't give a toss whether someone is gay or not, so long as they are good, caring people. Yet the OT has more than its fair share of gay-bashing ''you'll go to hell'' threats. Anyone who believes in that doesn't come across as terribly intelligent to me.
How do you know that they are wrong? What does your belief mean that you are more intelligent?
Remember, you criticise them for believing what they have read in a book, what they have interpreted from that book but isn't our acceptance of science just the same thing... faith.
i think it has long been proven that the earth is more than 5,000 years old, Jesus my gran is over 5,000 years old ffs
And whereas the theory of evolution might have not been proven beyond reproach yet (and then, what difference does it make if some people will ignore it, like they do with the age of this planet) what is also beyond doubt is that mankind did not descend from a single couple. Even if God had created mankind.