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Do the Welsh hate the English?
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i've just come back from a holiday to Wales, lovely country it has to be said. However not a day went by without a Welsh person being rude to me! I was ignored in shops, not given eye contact when i spoke and had staff in pubs and shops being very abrupt with me. Also when i enter a shop and say something, everyone immediatly stops talking in English and starts talking in Welsh! For this to happen once or twice maybe a coincidence, but the whole week?!
Is anyone on here Welsh or had similar or different experiences? Perhaps you've been to Wales and thought everyone was polite?
Do the Welsh hate the English? Discuss.
Is anyone on here Welsh or had similar or different experiences? Perhaps you've been to Wales and thought everyone was polite?
Do the Welsh hate the English? Discuss.
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Recently, a lot of pressure groups have been formed in Wales to protect the Welsh language. Morrocan Roll has said on these forums many times the language is dying. I agree with him. However, many people wish to keep it going, and that I have no problem with. The noble aim of saving a language has, sadly, been hijacked by a minority who have diverted this into a race issue. The way that English people are being treated in this country at the moment makes me thoroughly ashamed to be a Welshman.
One final point - when it comes to people starting conversations in Welsh, this is nothing new. It's not meant to be a way of making a statement against the English or people against any other nationality. It's more of a way of attempting to keep the language going. Policies such as this are encouraged by many local public and private companies - Gwynedd Council has had a fair bit to say about this subject in recent years, for example.
It is not a simple issue of claiming that the Welsh hate the English. Such old rivalries should have been consigned to the dustbin of history years ago, though sadly such xenophobic and simple-minded attitudes remain in this country in abundance. It's one of many reasons why I intend to leave Wales as soon as finances permit. The country may be beautiful, but there are things happening in this country of which I wish to have no part in.
I agree with a lot of what stargalaxy has already outlined - there are the same problems that occur anywhere when rich outsiders move into a desirable area and locals have no option but to leave. It (perhaps understandably) creates resentment but unfortunately, a minority of welsh have chosen to focus on the fact that most of these people are english over anything else.
I can sympathise, having had to move away from the Lake District in Cumbria due to lack of affordable housing, opportunities or jobs. I miss it very much and I'd love to move back there. It's very difficult not to blame the Londoners that have bought up everything as weekend cottages at insane prices.
And I thought we had differences in Spain!
The thing that takes the piss up here is that a lot of the English hating people go around in Man United Tshirts and Liverpool... They can't even speak a word of Welsh and seem to think that the only Celts lived in Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
To be fair I don't know many Welsh people who know the history behind their country... Nor what "ich dien", what they all have tattooed in the same place on their arm means, nor why they hate the English.
I hate being targetted for what people did when my ancestors are from Latvia, Russia, France and Germany. That makes my Celtic blood as thick as theirs.
Its a completely accurate statement. England essentially subsidises Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland for everything.
I rest my case...
It irritates me that not only do most of the rest of the world not understand the difference between England and the UK, nor do most of the English...
there is some truth in what mat says.
can you think of a single welsh company that provides large employment investment?
if wales went it alone ...and all the english money was pulled out ...foriegn investors such as the japs would soon follow i think.
the problem with wales is theres to many fucking mountains!
i think i'm correct in saying that wales is the only country in the western world that doesn't have a modern multi laned highway connecting its south to its north ...it just aint possible.
the seas are to treacherous for large ports as well.
Also its not like the english are totally respectful to the welsh is it?
Which is probably quite beneficial, living in Buckinghamshire.
It is rather handy.
Especially here....in fact its probably a good thing ive lost my accent while on a night out in Aylesbury. :nervous: (too which i returned today)
if that lot ever get in power the english will be leaving in droves ...seriously.
me included.
a woman candidate came to my house last year from plaid ...when i mentioned to her that plaid had publicly stated in the newspapers that the english were to be likened to foot and mouth disease and should be eradicated ...she laughed and said i wasn't to worry about what the idiotic minority spouted ...i almost turned my hosepipe on her but decided instead to point out that these words were coming from the actual leaders. she scarpered quick.
Matadore's comments amount to little more than trolling I fear. Other than greater London, and perhaps Scotland, I doubt any region within Britain could survive by itself. I look forward to Matadore's (and anyone else ready to take cheap shots at Wales) comments describing the mythical 'Middle England' we keep hearing about or the Home Counties as worthless rubbish- seeing as they could not survive on their own either.
My mate living in London continually has the piss ripped out of her for her accent, and that she's an 'ooh arrr farmer' and a yokel and a sheepshagger just because she has a cumbrian accent. She says that even people with generic Northern accents are picked on at her workplace (an investment bank). Does that say something about Southerners, or something about Londoners, or something about the people she works with?
It says something about people. My accent is posher when at the start of a new term, my mates have a good laugh for a week, then it goes a bit midlands. We all take the mickey out of each other.
Anyway.. whenever I'm in Wales I'm generally treated fine, seeing as I've a very large family to visit up there
I think that's sad.
and this is the precise reason why we hate the english, because wankers like this are so narrow minded to think that england is the centre of the fucking universe, they can't see the forest for the trees. like someone has already said, the UK is made up of 4 separate "regions" and each of those regions have their own national identities, and to be fair, its not suprising lots of people hate the english with their superior attitude of "your not from england, your must be completely inferior to us"