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Certainly nothing more wrong than a straight couple kissing.
Sorry, I meant in the context that it's up the person to be who they want to be, like it's their choice (up to them), I know some people are gay and hate being gay and try to do everything not to be gay. But what I mean is that it has nothing to do with other people, it's about you and what you choose to do in your life. Of course in this case it was slightly different in that they were doing something that was perhaps offensive to other people.
I wouldn't want my child to be subjected to serious snogging though, straight or gay. I suppose that's not exactly the point you're making... but anyway... tumtetum...
I've never been to an adults only bar... do people normally start snogging in them?
Seriously...how can anyone find it offensive? Are Victorian values so firmly entrenched in our society?
Really? How old are you?? A lot of bars in city centres are over 18's only and yeah bars tend to be popular places for kissing.
You can't assume everyone thinks like you. If you were snogging in front of a 70 year old lady (stereotyping here, but you know) I don't think she'd be pleased. Different people have different values, people are entitled to be offended by what they like. For example, I'm offended by swearing, but someone who swears a lot might think that because they aren't offended by them that nobody is.
I don't want to witness highly charged sexual activity between people whilst I'm just having a drink or meal.
The people concerned can go outside, go home, go to a gay bar, etc.
Then you are inhabiting a world outside my experience. I don't swear much - I prefer to save swearing for when it really has impact rather than using it as verbal punctuation. But the idea that I could be offended by it per se is ludicrous to me. Obviously I could be offended by somebody insulting me using swear-words but that would be because I would then be the target of their swearing rather than just a witness to it.
They are after all only words...or kisses.
There is no need for it in a public social setting like a pub or restaurant. If they really feel "hot & randy" then let them find a more appropriate place.
Sadly, I think what you've said is all too true. There is a lot of bi-phobia about - usually of the 'but they don't know what they want' variety, which is bollocks because it assumes a rigid distinction between homo- and heterosexuality, whereas the evidence suggests that sexuality is more of a continuum between hetero- and hoomsexuality, both of which are largely learned social constructs.
As you say, someone's sexuality is their business and no-one else's: you'd think the 'gay community' would have learned that lesson by now, wouldn't you? Sadly not: it's all about asserting a narrow idea of 'gay pride,' and not enough about questioning what sexuality is and whether there really is any such thing as hetero-, homo- or, for that matter, bisexuality.
Anyone who does not want to witness people kissing should simply refrain from visiting pubs.
I don't want to see people praying, so I don't visit churches- same type of thing, really.
I'm not sure that's true. We're talking about things which some people find offensive and others don't...a healthy slice of subjectivity there. I think it's perfectly possible to be offended by ritualistic behaviour (particularly of religions to which you don't belong) if it's possible to be offended by kissing or swearing...
I was simply suggesting that just as churches are devoted to worship and prayer, and that anyone not wishing to see people worshipping and praying should stay clear of churches, pubs are for socialising, meeting people and hooking up with others. Anyone so hyper-sensitive as to being offended or unsettled by people kissing should simply stay away from pubs, instead of suggesting that people stop the kissing.
Personally I wouldn't ever assume that people only pray in church. I have been known to pray in the pub for example "please god, don't let the white follow the black into the pocket"
"Oh God, I think I'm gonna puke..."
"Oh God, never again..." etc
Does anyone think the owners/controllers of a "Jewish"(for example)** place of worship would tolerate/accept/welcome any "Islamic"/"Hindu"/"Protestant"/"Catholics"/"Moonies" etc.,etc.who wished to worship their God there?
If not,does anyone think they should be forced to ?
seeker
** Feel free to interchange the religions
the slightest coment against this,and your all up in arms calling us "homophobes",its pathetic!
it was a big orgy and you know it...joke...i know they were dicks for doing it but the owner has discretion...if he frowns against it then he's entitled to throw your mates out...thats life eh?
Damn how did you find out?