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My granny had (not sure if she's thrown it out or not) a gorgeous mink coat too, and a rabbit fur stole which I wore for my first communion
I'd never,ever buy one myself though.
i don't wear fur but i do wear sheep and cattle.
i would rather wear fur than fake ...the alternatives are all bad in their production for the environment.
says it all
dont like the stuff myself but i repsect someones right to do so, however id prefe rif they brought a 2nd hand one
you probably plenty of wildlife from wearing artificial fabrics which make chemical waste for example, and people wear leather etc etc so focusing on fur is a rahte rpointless etc
dont forget cows would kill us all if we gave them even a moment
Is it the fur itself that it immoral or the method for getting the fur?
would you wear your cats fur? or another humans skin? no? well there you have it.
ok, i used to be some what of an animal rights activist, but still, the pain and suffering animals go through, just to make someone feel they are wereing something "fashionable".
grrrrr
So its the methods and the actual fur you object too?
If I produced a free range mink coat would you still think it horrible?
Yes, I'd wear fur. To a steak house.
Stargalaxy - out of curiousity, do you eat meat? do you wear leather shoes or use other animal products, etc.?
*edited for spelling*
Well actually most of the problem people have with fur is the conditions, same as most people dont buy battery hen eggs.
I asked him this but he didn't reply.
And TT do you wear leather, because that is just 'cows skin'
But the comparison is stupid, cows arent kept in tiny cages where they suffer horribly.
So it's OK for me to take you hostage and kill you as long as I keep you in good conditions before hand?
As long as you make a good coat out of me thats fine.
Exactly.
If you were an animal, wouldn't you wanna die knowing you'd made someone happy?
Well what are you bitching about then? Did you just want the chance to call everyone hypocrits?
If you eat meat and use leather then you can have no moral objection to fur IF it was made ethically.
Don't you follow?
I was trying to make a point. I'm not "bitching".
So yeah.
Either way I wear shoes out of horsefur, eat meat, and make an issue out of buying leather shoes rather than synthetic crap. I couldn't really care less.
Then again, I don't have any fur, and doubt I will get any in the near future.
I do feel for the animals when confronted with it, but generally feel that I have too many othr issues weighing on my head to make a deal out of this.
Again, it's OK to murder something as long as you keep it in good conditions before hand?
That's like saying it woulda been OK for Hitler to kill Jews if he didn't stick them in camps first - and don't say it isn't.
No, but chickens are, and i bet plenty fo people who object here aren't buying free range chicken produts the entire time.
Also lots of cows do suffer a fair amount due to overbreeding and selection for production, from mastitus, lameness, various reproductive problems, etc. although i can only say this for certain in the dairy industry, and they're the cows which are the most likely to end up as cheap burgers and stuff.
and how do you think they kill cows? again a lot of the time by electrocution and then a bolt to the head. reasonably good life? so being overbred so that you're born lame and in pain a hell of a lot of the time is a reasonably good life?
As said in post above, do you eat chicken and make sure it's free range? if not then they're stuck in tiny little cages, often have their beaks trimmed to stop themsleves attacking their neighbours and each other. that broiler chickens (bred for meat) grow so fast that the body leachs calcium from thei bones as they grow too big too fast for their bodies to cope.
Decent leather is expensive as it's a luxury good, same way that mink coats and such like are expensive :rolleyes:
so by your logic since mink is so expensive then obviously they must lead an ok life.
I dont own any fur. I used to have a fur coat that I bought from a charity shop. oooh it was so warm, much warmer than a thicker fake fur coat I also had.
I wouldnt buy one new, because I dont want to support the industry, but I dont see the harm in wearing a second hand fur coat.
Im not a vegetarian so it would be completely hypocritical of me to start protesting about it being wrong to kill certain animals but not others. Youre either against killing animals or youre not.
I definitely think animals should be only kept and killed humanely, and this is reflected by the choices I make when I buy my food.
If you ever buy pork/bacon/chicken/eggs that dont have the `free range, organic, or freedom foods`labels on them, then you really have no right to hold your arms up in protest about the fact a fur coat comes from a cute furry animal.