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no, everyone from all classes and social circumstances abuses alchohol these days if you can't see that you are blind.......
This is worth a read
http://alcalc.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/36/5/401
how ironic that's exactly my thoughts on you.........ah well, we are destined never to see each others points.
(a) young people like to socialise and have sex (so do old people to be fair)
(b) excessive public drunkeness has been a problem for hundreds of years and is related to poverty and social problems.
There is of course a link between social deprivation and alcoholism - the fact that they end up worse off could be the lack of access to adequate healthcare, and more generally poor health.
Sorry, I should qualify this. How much actual or perceived harm it causes is often related to poverty and social class (e.g. posh hooray Henry's getting drunk and misbehaving at Henley Regatta is seen as less of a social problem than working class lads getting pissed up in Croydon on a Friday night). How people cope with alcohol problems is also very much dependent on money and class.
See above.
your first point i agree with, at least.
the second, well dont get me started.......all i can say is poverty and social problems may well lead to alcoholism and rowdy behaviour, and in the past when living standards were lower in general this may have been the cause..........but now we are comfortable in the main, enough disposable income to waste on all the little luxuries...........alcohol abuse these days has little to do with poverty, cos all the students down the bar are wearing the latest trainers/ fashion accessories.......and the majority are middle class.
Most problem drinkers do have less than ideal social circumstances. And it has everything to do with poverty when these people spend their entire income on booze and don't eat properly and become seriously malnourished.
Going out every night and getting drunk doesn't come close.
well that just means we have different definitions of abuse........i say they are abusing it, what's the point in being so drunk you can never remember half the evening and end up with some minger you regret? and this is a good night.......of course there are different levels of abuse, but that's a different debate.
trust has largely vanished and been replaced with fear ...why else would there be so many cameras about/
that's my point, this is actually viewed as a fun way to spend an evening.......young people can't socially interact normally anymore, without being completely hammered they feel awkward and don't know what to do with themselves.........so get as sloshed as you can, doesn't matter what happens or what you do, its FUN.
Good to see things haven't changed since I was a teenager in the 80's then.
i know you're older blagsta and whatever but so are other posters on here, and they manage to come across hell of a lot less patronising than you...........and your last post makes you sound more like a juvenile and less like an adult, you really think it's good that teenagers are dysfunctional drunks and can't function normally?...........where does this lead society?......
i do think the playboy/playgirl lifestyle means people will find it harder to grow up, accept responsibility.........this is already evident in society, lol ever watched trisha? obviously not everyone's like this, but i do think it is gradually increasing.....only time will tell.
oh how original...there's no point even trying to reply to trolls like you..all i can say is you've got very little time in this site left...enjoy it while it lasts :wave:
piss off you troll, can't even spell your name right, it's fuhrer...... :banghead: