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ffs you say it was like this 20 years ago, and list some sensible reasons...........but then you fail to see the logic that 20 years on these reasons are all status/quo or worse, and the behaviour you see is more widespread as a result..........we are not becoming more conservative we are becoming more liberal, moral values have changed, what was not so acceptable 20 years ago is now common practice, so people push the limits further........i'm not making a moral judgement merely a simple observation.
I can remember being a young naive lad from the sticks of Northern Ireland and the feeling of dissapointment I got when I discovered English universities weren't the seats of sexual depravity that I thought they would be...
pissed women in public was a very very rare thing.
in jail as a teenager ...anyone who had robbed old people would have been lynched.
when i was in jail years later ...it was the norm.
standards have not fallen ...they have collapsed.
yes vagabonds roaming the streets and the like...yes i believe the rebellious youth and standards they have have fallen but there's always been that mad element to society...it's never going ot be perfect...it's just todays youth are a lot more alienated and drugs,parties,short skirts,spray paint are more acceptable and readily available so they take advantage of this...
No disrespect, but that's rose tinted bullshit. Read some history about Gin Lane in London (not that I'm saying you're that old!
Although the Fathers are often the ones who are kicked hardest in situations, Mothers obviously do suffer too.
Wouldn't it be nice if both groups could team up, and make like, Parents For Justice? It seems they are both fighting for the same thing, fairness for parents who break up and still want access to the child.
Hmm, seems a bit reactionary though, with that name.
as soon as booze became ilegal ...it became fashinable for women to be seen drinking in public so yes times have and do change.
the pictures are lovely blagsta ...but they portray the hoplesness of every major western citys underclass ...not the educated well healed.
times change, morals change...........girls whooping their tops off at a whim is one facet of this........you're suggesting that it has always been like this, to the extent it is now.....and if you won't even listen to someone who was around before your time you really are pigheaded. you think you read a few social history books and instantly you are more qualified to make an opinion.........my arse.
Women do have advantages on the occasion, for example it's still seen as wrong for a man to hit a woman, yet a woman can hit a guy and it's not seen as so bad. I think Fathers4justice is a wonderful cause too (Not that it would have ever interested my father, I'm sure men love their kids equally to what women do).
oh my god you really don't get it do you......i'm sure there have always been drunks and lewd behaviour on the streets, just they used to be the underclass or a small group of society, now it is very mainstream and widely accepted behaviour........what are you on?........
P.S.
I'm 14 years older than you. What was that about not listening etc?
History proves otherwise I'm afraid. Unless you're saying those Chatham girls are upper class or something?
good for you.......i will listen i just can't believe your saying public standards are the same as they have always been........im sure roll is 14 years olders than you, as are my parents........
upper, middle, and lower class........the lot of them were at it, class is irrelevant. 20 years ago women would have turned their noses up at this behaviour, some still do.......
Yes, 'cos that's exactly what I'm saying isn't it? :rolleyes:
Fucking plank.
Yes, Chatham, that well known hangout of the upper classes.
wtf are you saying then.......? this getting pissed and shagging has always been so widely done and accepted........that's complete shite.
my point is class is irrelevant, but i notice you edited that out of the post, prick........this behaviour is hardly exclusive to chatham.
You need to learn some history. Things change yes. They go in cycles. At the moment, its a common thing. It was back in 1800's too. It's not new.
Anyway, as I said in an earlier post, why don't you talk about possible reasons rather being a morally judgemental prick?
Errr...what? It was relevant in this post
are you even listening?......i'm saying class and intellect is irrelevant to the problem today.........it's acceptable, it's normal, so what will be the norm 20 years from now?......truth is when you can't answer the question, you try to take the high ground, mr. well read.......