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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Yes. So is rock climbing, driving a car, eating too many cream cakes.

    So what?
    Why add another to the list when we don't have to?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    So you don't think cannabis should have been banned in the first place?
    That's not the point. And tbh I don't know why it was banned.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Perhaps, or maybe you've written off the professionalism of most mental health professionals.

    The point is that most mental health professionals don't know anything about drugs. That's why I said there needs to be more dual diagnosis workers.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Why add another to the list when we don't have to?

    But people are using drugs anyway. Hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe we should make it safer for them?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    That's not the point. And tbh I don't know why it was banned.

    You don't know much at all about drugs.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    The point is that most mental health professionals don't know anything about drugs. That's why I said there needs to be more dual diagnosis workers.
    That's why I said they do know how to diagnose and can legitimately offer predisposing and precipitating factors for the disease process. Regardless of the actual drug consumed.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    You don't know much at all about drugs.
    Why was cannabis banned?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    But people are using drugs anyway. Hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe we should make it safer for them?
    Maybe. You may be right. But I'm not convinced. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    That's why I said they do know how to diagnose and can legitimately offer predisposing and precipitating factors for the disease process. Regardless of the actual drug consumed.

    Not necessarily.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Why was cannabis banned?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Not necessarily.
    :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    buy this
    Might have a look in the library.

    Precis?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    :lol:

    I give up.

    As I said - come and talk when you've actually worked in the field.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Precis?

    Look it up you lazy fucker.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Look it up you lazy fucker.
    :lol:

    If you're not going to support your argument with anything other than your own experience and values then you can hardly claim superiority of knowledge.

    I will look it up but you might have wanted to tell me what it had to say. Apparently not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The info is out there, why the fuck should I do all the work? Lazy cunt.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    The info is out there, why the fuck should I do all the work? Lazy cunt.
    Steady on.

    I'm not asking you to do any work, just support your arguments with something a bit more substantial than one line comments about the futility of mine. Is that too much to ask in a Politics & Debate forum.

    Blimey. Anyone would have thought I'd asked you to bring a copy to my desk and read it to me. :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you're not willing to do a bit of work yourself then fuck off.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :rolleyes:

    *goes forth to multiply*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    The info is out there, why the fuck should I do all the work? Lazy cunt.

    lmao , brilliant :lol:

    I reckon someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Why was cannabis banned?
    it takes ten seconds or less to download the book i have given you a link to ...it takes about an hour to read it.
    it was illegal for farmers NOT to grow it in america if you read the book. that was until the 1930's when the petro chemical industry discovered they could make long plastic fibres ...polluting environmentaly unfriendly fibres that could make loads of money the world over by replacing hemp rope canvas sails ...(canvas means cannabis by the way) ...and a host of other products that the hemp plant previously supplied. it was banned for commercial reasons ...so the oil men could make lots of dirty money ...you realy haven't read this thread have you.
    download the book. it's free.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Steady on.

    I'm not asking you to do any work, just support your arguments with something a bit more substantial than one line comments about the futility of mine. Is that too much to ask in a Politics & Debate forum.

    Blimey. Anyone would have thought I'd asked you to bring a copy to my desk and read it to me. :rolleyes:

    I wouldn't be suprised Kentish, you won't get anywhere either I wouldn't imagine.........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    I give up.

    As I said - come and talk when you've actually worked in the field.

    :lol:

    I like that one, ask others to take on your word/experience what you would refuse to accept from others i.e. me in the pathetic argument recently about the interrelatedness of politics/economics..........
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Originally posted by Kentish
    But it's not the case that the drugs market is being pushed undergound - it already is underground.

    In the hands of criminals and terrorists.
    Here we have addiction being treated as a crime rather than an illness, where ecstasy is in the same class as crack. Where otherwise law abiding, hardworking, tax paying individualsare being turned into criminals for smoking a little weed.

    The laws are out of date and blatently don't do any good whatsoever. It's time to accept that people will always do drugs because they're fun, and most people couldn't give a fuck if they're illegal or not. Time for a new approach.
    Weekender Offender 
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Skive
    Where otherwise law abiding, hardworking, tax paying individualsare being turned into criminals for smoking a little weed.

    and most people couldn't give a fuck if they're illegal or not.

    The first statement is true but you could say it about anyother crime and it would be just as true, the implication is that smoking weed should not be criminal, but the association of the weed smoker with being a good person is rather flawed

    Otherwise law abiding, hardworking, tax paying individuals are being made criminals for shhoting up a little heroine

    or driving a few miles over the limit

    or having a few drinks for the road

    etc etc

    As for the second point, I am not convinced that is true at all, hence the popularity of threads debating drugs!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BeckyBoo
    lmao , brilliant :lol:

    I reckon someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning :p

    Not really. Kentish has been pointed in the right direction to find out the info. The rest is up to him. I haven't got the time to write a bleedin' book.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    :lol:

    I like that one, ask others to take on your word/experience what you would refuse to accept from others i.e. me in the pathetic argument recently about the interrelatedness of politics/economics..........

    The point is that I can and do argue my position. You can't.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Toadborg
    Otherwise law abiding, hardworking, tax paying individuals are being made criminals for shhoting up a little heroine

    or driving a few miles over the limit

    or having a few drinks for the road

    Can you see the difference between points 1 and points 2 & 3?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    The point is that I can and do argue my position. You can't.

    What like that 'Go and read soem Marx' argument, that was a good one I thought.......:rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Can you see the difference between points 1 and points 2 & 3?

    rearrange this

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