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Well you quite blatantly demonstrated your ignorance by continuing to assert that politics and economics are separate.
Eh?
I'm pointing out that the post I'm referring to is ill thought out.
What's your point? Apart from trying to piss me off?
I suggest you give it to me. That's punishment enough. Then you can watch me smoke it in front of you
Skunk I take it?
Devils advocate generally involves having a coherent argument doesn't it?
As to the second point, people may want drugs to be legal, but illegality hasn't prevented widespread use .......
What I meant to say was that the law doesn't really stop people from taking drugs. People are quite happy to brake the law when they're having fun and a going to get away with it.
Have you ever stopped to think that it is you that has demonstrated your ignorance?
Like I said, if I commented on drugs etc then you could wuite rightly assert that you are in a better position to comment because you know far more about it, if I then asserted that you were 'displaying your ignorance' you would probably be pissed off' yeah?
yet here you come across as if you are someone who knows a lot about economics and didn't take on board anyhting I said despite the fact I know rather a lot about economics, is that fair and reasonable?
Nope!!!! What you consistently tried to do was deny that there is a political element to economic decisions......
Which, if you knew "rather a lot" about economics you wouldn't try to do.
cue Blagsta style response.
Go and do an economics degree and then we can talk
Okay, so which college will teach me that there is no political element to economic decisions?
And in particular, which college will teach me that IMF/WB decisions are apolitical?
paki black!
They will teach you there is no political element to many economic decisions and there is to some.
Your fundamental misunderstanding is that economic decisions is all about governements, large corporations etc when it is equally (and perhaps more importantly ) about individuals and their basic needs
The most important economic deciosn you will make in your life are what kind of mortgage to take out, how to invest your wages, how you will spend you wages, how you will get your wages, none of them especially political.......
Hoo boy, and that decision would be no different if I lived in a capitalist society, socialist society or in a country without any regulatory bodies right?
I note we're now down to "especially political" ........
But it doesn't.
I don't know much about economics. But I do know that politics and economics are inextricably linked. How can they not be? Economics is concerned with how we produce and distribute scarce resources. How can this not be political?
So, you've got an economics degree. Has it never occured to you that denying the link between economics and politics is a political stance in itself?
If they're teaching that, then they're teaching a political stance.
What do you think politics is about?
That's not really economics is it? But these decisions are affected by the political climate - or do you think that unions, strikes, working, interest rates, unemployment etc aren't political?
That is exactly what economics is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=define:economics
And you reckon you have an ecomomics degree? Where from? Disneyland?
Firstly, pure economics as a science doesn’t have a political side that comes in the interpretation, when analysing interest rate, moves and its effect on the economy, or balance of payments, or on the micro level the price elasticity of demand, is apolitical.
Is medicine a political science, when analysing the effect of a drug on the body is this political, no but the implementation of which drugs to use, what type of care to fund, research and development all have scientific and political elements, but the pure science is neutral.
In the real world whenever a government makes an economic decision this is also a political one, government economic policies cant be separated from political ones.
Take some examples “trickle down economics” the theory that says make the rich richer and the wealth will trickle down, this in my opinion is an attempt to economically justify a political decision rather than the other way round.
The economist Milton Friedman who says that the government should provide no social security, everything should be left to the market, this is both political and economic argument.
When Keynes saw a way to end the depression, by boosting government spending to stimulate the economy this was very political as well as being opposed to traditional economic beliefs.
Not on a macro level. Anyway, you think that these things aren't political? Oh dear.
Well explained. But you cannot divorce the tools from the context in which they are used.
Then physics is a political science as they created a nuclear bomb
What so when you are doing your christmas shopping you claim your decision will be intrinsically related to politics in some way?
Whether I buy a Mars Bar or a Crunchy is a political decision is it?
All Macro must have Micro foundations..........
The tools may not be political, but the way they are applied is. What is researched, how it is paid for, who pays for it, the ends it is put to etc. All political.
The way that these products are produced and distributed (i.e. under a capitalist system) is political, yes.
But that's not what you said is it? You mentioned "what kind of mortgage to take out, how to invest your wages, how you will spend you wages, how you will get your wages, none of them especially political....... ".
So interest rates have nothing to do with the government? Employment is not political? Wage disputes are not political?
Go back to school. :rolleyes:
But governments affect these decisions as to how resources are distributed.
You cannot even deduce that 'how you spend your wages' is the same as 'will I buy a Mars Bar or a Crunchy'
Maybe it is you that needs the lessons..........:rolleyes: