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How long did she lie for ? when she was first questioned did she admit where she was ? How long did it take for her to tell the truth ? How long whilst she was being questioned initially do you think it would have taken the police to inform her this was a VERY serious investigation ?
and that we should be 'better people' than thinking that she has done her time and be left in peace. that that's at all shocking.
i wonder if she would still be such a hate object if it was known that he had told her if she didn't lie he would kill her. because that's entirely possible. END QUOTE
Hmm and did she not think "well im safe now, in a police cell, he cant get me here, i should tell the truth and get him sorted". cause i wouldv'e.
hates? did i say i hated her or did i infact say i hatde the IDEA of her being SO CLOSE? Did i say that people that agreed with me were better? Or did i actually 'i thought people were better than to get personal'??
Very clever, you sound so intelligent, make a good arguement, but its invalid, coz u have totally twisted what i said. true?
bytheway i am going out now, not backing out, i WILL be catching up with this later
i don't think you can say what you would do in a situation like that, cause you don't know exactly what happened.
i never said you did say you hated her. but why is hating the idea of her being close any better? it's still a very strong feeling.
that's what you actually said. and if you wanted it to be interpreted the way you're trying to argue, you should have been more specific. cause the way i'm reading it still makes it look like you are shocked that we held the opposite opinion.
I certainly wouldnt get a job in a shop where I WOULD be recognised.
She obviously will be aware that many people do not like her, some I would go as far to say hate the woman, yet she is working with the public...very strange.
A few random facts, pop pickers:
1. Ian Huntley is not a rapist. He was tried of it and ACQUITTED, given that he had a stone cold alibi for when he was supposed to have raped that woman. Now unless the CCTV cameras lie to protect him too, it's safe to say he didn't rape that woman.
2. Given this acquittal, the police hounded him for several months afterwards, obviously because they felt they knew better than the courts and the CCTV. This is how he could convince Carr that they were up to their old tricks.
3. Carr believed this story, and it is quite believable. If the police came to your door and said that your partner was a rapist and a murderer, would YOU believe that the person you loved was capable of it.
4. When the police showed Carr just how convincing the evidence against Huntley was, she retracted her statement and admitted that she had fabricated the alibi. She didn't "lie in court", as has been said, she lied in a police statement and when she realised that she was protecting a murderer she admitted the lies. Look at the transcript of the police interviews if you don't believe me.
At no time was Carr supsected of, or charged with, murdering the two girls. She was charged with perverting the course of justice- that's lying to the POLICE for the slow of brain- and she was convicted of it. She has served her time (far longer than is usual for that level of crime) and she is not a "pervert", a "murderer" or "a disgrace to the human race".
She fucked up, she's paid for it.
If you "hate her being close" you are reactionary and really not thinking about the situation. And I can safely say that if Carr moved in upstairs I would not be unhappy at all.
the original poster said she was working in the back of argos, so she wouldn't have contact with the public.
good for her, if it's true. she'll never please the sun-buyers, whatever she does. get a job and she's provoking people, no job and she's a benefit sponger.
So what would you suggest she did then? Hm?
She isn't exactly bright, she could never get a job like the one she had and was good at in Soham, what do you suggest she does? take her kit off and sell herself as a porn star?
sorry, I just remembered Argos
True no job and she's a scrounger.
Why did she move to that area though, if she has nothing to be ashamed of why didnt she go back to where she came from ?
She probably is a canny woman....I dunno cos ive never met her, I just keep going back to the initial interview and im sure that the police then would have made the severity of it known. Kermit will correct me if im wrong but it was approx 4 days before she changed her story(cant remember now cos it was that long ago).
Work in a call centre so public dont see her as much
Your a bloke, would she have a career as a porn star
well I think this thread shows you why not. People are incredibly over-reactive, and she probably thought or was advised to move where she might be less known. Or something.
If i was in the same situation as her then id move abroad. She is known all over the UK.
hindsight is 20:20. She believed him, as you do when you love someone. Her only mistake was to lie for the man she loved. That's all.
I bow to you sir.
It wasn't murder until they found the bodies, and that wasn't for at LEAST 4 days.
erk, sorry for the multi-posting.
Thats not what I asked.
So initially they were both questioned, at this time do you think Maxine Carr would have been told the severity of this case, yes at that time they didnt know the girls had been murdered but 2 young girls were missing.
Like I asked before, WHEN did she start admitting the truth ?
so if the police turned up on your doorstep tomorrow morning and told you they suspected that mr. boo had kidnapped and possibly murdered 2 little girls, you'd go 'oh, that bastard, is there any way i can help you out?'
cause personally, i know i'd have to see some pretty conclusive evidenence before i believed that about someone i loved.
Aye, well she just got hounded out the West Midlands where she had been working in a factory.......
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I am a crap liar anyhow, so if the police came here then they would be told the truth. Maybe initially I might have not told them everything.
Im assuming in cases like this they would have been told of the situation, the police wouldnt just land and say 'where did you go yesterday' or whatever. Im pretty sure they would really dig deep and would have let Maxine know that this was a serious thing.
if my memory serves me correct the girls didnt just go walkabout, they went missing and Maxine Carr wasnt interviewed till many hours later and at that time the police were very concerned.
back after Im a celeb
Concerned, yes, but it wasn't as serious then, as it later became apparent. They'd only been gone a few hours, a day at most.
The girls went missing on Sunday 4th Aug, 17th Aug they were both arrested..........You telling me that by this time it still wasnt that serious and that she shouldnt have started telling the truth ?
BBC News report, 17th aug
and my point is initially yeah I agree she may have not told them everything, but surely when she realised this WAS a serious thing, like i have said a few times then she should have started telling the truth. We were not talking a day or so, you seen the headline we are talking 13 days and she still didnt tell the truth.
Im just trying to stress that she had a long time to think about things, after a couple of days and the girls were still missing surely she should have thought about telling the police the thruth. She knew Huntley had seen the girls because he told her he had...........after a couple of days im sure that would have set alarm bells ringing for anyone.
yes, very much so, like this eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Maybe so....but thats no excuse for lying. If she had started telling the truth sooner then people would not have felt as bad towards her, because she lied for so long is probably why people dont feel any sympathy towards her.......my view anyhow.