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http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1343962,00.html
And boy, aren't they going to milk you for all you're worth...
It won't be long before women who need and abortion and homosexuals are forced to flee America.
A great victory indeed.
Those who are "conservative" believe in OPPORTUNITY to make of your life what you will, and the "liberal" believe that it is the government's responsibility to play nursemaid to all who would not take care of themselves.
You may have Moron and his minions. Good riddance...
Are you a multimillionaire Thanatos? Do you belong to that top 1% of the population Thanatos? Or are you simply a turkey voting for Christmas?
Do you believe homosexuals are evil people who will burn in Hell and who should be persecuted? Do you believe in criminalising abortion?
Civil war cannot be too far away...
What a load of tosh - this is all about people being forced to live their lives according to the dictats of religious fundamentalists, ironically the same thing that the USA reckons it wants to liberate the muslim world from.
:rolleyes:
And that is ALL just more HAND OUTS.
Promote your Marxism all you want. Just keep it on YOUR side of the pond.
Take Moron and his minions. Absorb them. Support them. Have the lot of them.
Shouldn't you be trotting out your favorite "n*gger" type word? You know... "neo-con".
Why do you not come to America, and put your life behind your mouth? Or simply empty words, without substance or conviction within the one spewing them?
If I could get away with it I would.
But he isn't worth dying for- he'll be gone soon.
save our planet... send bush to his own
Uh, yeah... :rolleyes:
Step 1) You need to take a deep breath, and then remind yourself that Michael Moron's cartoon show is no more related to reality than Star Wars...
Step 2) Worry about this step ONLY when you have completed Step 1...
Take that deep breath; you can do it...
Raw nerve and hitting perhaps?
Perhaps - for a balanced view - you should seek out FAHRENHYPE 9/11
Now... for those REALLY slow on the up-take... ex-president Clinton (and his advisors) is not exactly one of Bush's crew...
:rolleyes:
But bought by the same black and sticky dollar.
or maybe that's just cynicism coming out in my old age.
Good point. Hope the years go past real fast though.
However there is one thing that stuck in my mind after watching the film.
That of Bush attending a dinner which consisted of the very rich.
His speech which he made started
"We are the haves and the have mores"
Bush is there to represent the rich and the powerful, the poor and the needy will be hurt in the next fours years. Children will suffer, people will lose jobs and the poor will face even more hardships.
Isn’t the number of people in the US who can’t afford health care rising?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/08/27/MNGPF8FF2U1.DTL
How can a country as rich and as powerful as the US allow 15% of its population to have inadequate health care???
It's the ultimate example of turkeys voting for Xmas.
I don’t agree with America’s healthcare policy but it’s a domestic American issue. What makes you think that you as a non-American have the right to comment on issues that don’t remotely affect you? Americans don’t go around criticising other countries healthcare systems as inadequate so why do you?
I feel sorry for the americans whove voted for something that isnt in their best interests, but thats not the reason im anti-bush.
I think Bush is on the fast track to starting another world war - and he would love it.
Bollox!
America feels free to impose "freedom and democracy" on other nations - that means its own system is deffo up for scrutiny
You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
America’s system of healthcare is not an issue of ‘freedom and democracy’. It’s perfectly justifiable for non-Americans to criticise the election fiasco of 2000; after all with America advocating democracy around the world when democracy in America was undermined in 2000 it’s definitely fair to criticise the hypocrisy there.
America has a healthcare system whereby people have to pay. I don’t agree with it. But, that’s America’s choice. Americans know that Bush opposes a state healthcare system but the majority of Americans still voted for Bush. That’s democracy. So stop whining about freedom and democracy, it’s entirely irrelevant to the issue. It’s something purely for Americans to decide and it’s absolutely none of your business.
Hoo boy - you're a censor now?
Would you like to put up a thread outlining all the subjects that I'm allowed to voice an opinion on?
Or maybe you could just stop trying to tell me what I'm allowed to talk about?
It’s just odd for you and Aladdin to be so concerned about America’s healthcare policy which only affects Americans and bizarrely as it sounds is supported by most Americans. It’s up to Americans, they support it and it’s their decision. Or can’t you accept that?
On the subject of Europeans sticking their nose into American affairs…If you’ve ever been to America, especially er less liberal parts you’d know that Americans hate being told how to vote by Europeans. (And hey how would you feel if Americans told you to vote Tory?) What people like yourself and a few stupid Guardian readers are too brainless to see is that the more Europeans tell Americans to say vote Democrat, the more likely Americans are to vote Republican. As somebody who would much prefer Americans to have a Democrat President it depresses me when Europeans help Bush. (Even if it is accidental as the case with the Guardian readers and other Europeans who urged Americans to vote Kerry).
You know what, Iraqis don't like being told what to do, nor do the people of Haiti, Somalia, Iran, France, Venezuela, Argentina etc etc etc
Do Americans give a monkeys?
The Guardian attempted to sell more copies and open up dialogue - the idea that it is capable of "tampering" with a US election is absurd - and I repeat, as America feels that it has the right, as the playground bully to boss the other countries around, it opens itself up to scrutiny - how long before it attacks the NHS?
months, years. what?
freethepeeps,
You’re guilty of the a criticism often attached to Americans – ignorance.
You’re either ignorant or just stupid. Out of interest have you ever even been to the US?
Anyway it’s quite simple really:
Europeans tell Americans to vote for Kerry.
Americans defy Europeans and vote for Bush.
Listen to Democrats, they’re recognising that Europeans sticking their nose in boosts Republicans popularity!
Anyway keep going freethepeeps; you and your chums will ensure the Republicans get 2008. I guess you want that? I don't...
As for the NHS remark; do you realise how stupid you sound? America couldn’t give a damn what healthcare system we have. It’s irrelevant and doesn’t affect them.
If the Americans want a pay-system then they are entitled to it; they might be "wrong" in your eyes, but it's their choice. It's not like they don't know what the policies are.
Iraqis have more choice now than they did under Saddam Hussein. You might not agree with the candidates, but they will have the opportunity to choose their own leader.
Or do you think that Saddam is preferable to democracy, however young and tenuous it may be?