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D'oh, ignorance is bliss sometimes. Othertimes it just makes you look stupid.
I can arrest him. I can arrest the PM if I wanted to. In fact I can arrest everyone except the Queen. She is the only person in this country with immunity from prosecution because all criminal cases are Crown vs... and you couldn't have Crown vs. Crown...
There are common law offences which are classed as arrestable offences.
These are offences such as shoplifting, robbery, murder which ANYONE can arrest for if they see the person doing it. This is why store detectives and PCSO's are allowed to detain thieves without being sued.
Normal citizens don't use these powers very often because there is an inherent danger involved, with many people not having the first clue on how to detain someone without being beaten up
Other offences carry what is known as a power of arrest. These are typically only availble to a police officer. Things such as treason, financial crime, burglary, using drugs e.t.c.
The difference between them is that a you can't see financial crime take place, you can only suspect someone of doing it. Which means a police officer can arrest with nothing more than a suspicion.
:crazyeyes
But if eveyone had a gun wouldnt the burglars and muggers have them as well?
It works a treat in South Africa, parts of the US and the Far and Middle East.
Nah, not in LabRats fantasy world
Then, look at this from another angle. All totalitarian regimes always tried to disarm the population. In Rwanda before Big Massacre all kinds of weapon were forbidden for Tutsi. ( and the Western World didn’t understand anything!). In Russia first attempt to ‘collectivise’ peasants made by Lenin failed, because they had guns. Then they were disarmed gradually and the next Stalin’s attempt was successful.
There can only be one head of state, and in the UK criminal cases are prosecuted in the head of state's name.
The only way to change this is to do in the name of the people, but TBH I don't see the point of changing it.
As are the police.
If you really think gun ownership is a good idea in the states, you're even crazier than I thought you were.
You really need to get an education.
Wellyou've come with nothing to prove you right there.
Do they do as much domestic violence,smoking weed in public (big deal now),supplying of illegal drugs. No you can't genuinely assert yhet they do, and when it comes to having crim convictons, nasty + unpleasant crime it won't be them doing it.
As I said before your posts are quite deceptive.
I should stick to the nicked mopeds (stolen by de middle class yoot)
hahahaha
if they catch a million quids worth of cannabis tonight ...the poor folk down at the dog and duck put their giros together to finance this illegal deal then ...
credit card scammers with expensive high tech equipment ...all being done by the local yobs in the bus shelter yeah ...
domestic violence ...usualy a wife battering husband... is known to be rife in the upper classes. most working class blokes would kick the crap out of their neighbour if they knew the woman next door was getting a beating.
blokes like that are shunned in working clubs and pubs for the most part ...they are the ones who usualy get the saturday night black eyes.
come down from button moon lady.
please answer me one thing ...is it the gypsies and the homeless or the well heeled and housed who financed that 1 million quids worth of cannabis or heroin? remembering this is a bizz worth possibly 10 billion pounds a year ...don't you think there would be some seriously flash council estates by now?
You can satirise all you like . Was Curtis'Cocky' Warren a recent big-time drugs crook middle class is the sense of this rhread, no he wasn't a thug who graduated into the big time. Likewise for much else big time crime
middle class areas are realtively crime-free, that's just it
Probably, yes.
Middle class teenage kids do smoke weed in public, yes.
Some suppliers are middle class, yes. But this is a very flawed analysis. It takes no account of socio-economic factors like lack of decent education, opportunity, poverty etc.
A lot of crime is associated with poverty, alienation, shit environment etc. As I said - your analysis is simplistic in the extreme.
Really? I very rarely see you post a link that backs any of your claims, even though I always ask. You seem to avoid doing so in fact.
and others have pointed out to you that most of your posts are abusive, witless one-liners
Yes, I get abusive sometimes, but only when faced with your obnoxious, offensive lies. Maybe if you could back up any of your claims and didn't tell such obvious porkies, I wouldn't give you so much grief.
But you don't:)
Stop whinging about my "abusive, witless one-liners" then.
evil and fucking hard as nails.
i asked her if she rolled her own ...'no i smoke benson and hedges' ....i meant did she roll her own tampons.
Because the middle class "yoot" aren't stupid enough to cause havoc on their own estates.
Buisnessmen aren't stupid enough to visit the brothels that are on their estate, they go elsewhere.
If you knew anything, you'd know that crime moves. Criminals travel. We are currently dealing with one lad from a very posh neighbourhood. he has had all the advantages in life, good education, good parents. He is know an (alleged) drug dealer and facing a charge for posession of offensive weapons and robbery.
He didn't commit any of these crimes in his own area, he moved away to a lower class area where he thought he could get away with it. He didn't reckon that the law abiding "working class" residents would get sick of him and get him evicted.
Working class people are no more criminal than upper class people. Like I said before, gun ownership is only highlighted when it's in a lower class area. What isn't widely known is that most rural "upperclass" farmers have enough firepower to equip an army, and enough drugs to supply Colombia.
As for nicking people who steal mopeds, and? What exactly is your point? And please provide some evidence for your views, I've given you first hand experience. You've retorted with tenth hand BNP propaganda.
Labrat:
The police are recognised as citizens who have been sworn in to protect the public. We have a unique police force in the UK. We have a term, we police with consent.
We don't use firearms because we rely on the public to help us. We don't want them arresting people because it puts them in unnecssary danger, and it prevents the criminals getting away with their crimes. How exactly is a private citizen going to gather enough forensic evidence to send a rapist to court?????
US police on the other hand don't police by consent. They are there to enforce the law, not help the community. They realised long ago that to enforce federal rule they would need firearms. The USA is the perfect example of a totalitarian state. It says in the constitution that the people can rise up against the government. What do you think the police and army would do if they tried?