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Who do you think have the higher rate for convictions, m/c or w/c
the lower classes always get the bigger sentence as well ...
go down to poorsville and get a fiver a box ...on credit ...
i don't think so. when i can sell a truck load of hi fis for fifty quid as opposed to a tenner ...are you still up with this raw economics we're talking here.
of course most of the nicked gear ends up on your patch.
the rough guy nicks it in one posh nieghborhood and flogs it in another. so your all buying each others gear ...you are listening to the voice of experience here ...
Is that do do with the fact that other classes can afford a decent lawyer and get them off, or at least get them a better sentence (if you know what I mean ) ?
your adress your clothes your grovelling manner ...all seems to effect your sentence.
But, in terms of numbers of crimes it is clearly the middle classes which out do either the higher or lower classes.
The lower classes especially black males are far more likely to get longer sentances and more convictions for a whole host of reasons.
I'd really like to see you justify that statement
I know that the black market in drugs in this country provides more money for criminals than anything else. And it is the middle classes which buy and use the most drugs.
scraping the barrel for an argument there
you'd be the 1st to say use of most drugs is no crime at all
I have said TWICE in the thread already that it is the lower classes who are involved in more damaging crime.
I don't believe this survey, there's no threat living amongst the middle classes, any time spent amongst the lower orders is
a) unsatisying, they're uneducated, ignorant and boring
b) dangerous as there's more violence, road rage...
Friday and Saturday night outside pubs in Middle Class towns is a dangerous time.
Ladymuck - you say you wuld rather walk down Finchley than Brixton at night? What difference does it really make? Is Finchley your neighbourhood?
Here's sth that should interest you in teh last 10 years after a resurgence of the yuppies in Brixton since the 1980's Brixton has become an extremely middle class area if the property prices are a good indicator of prosperity.
Brixton is no longer 'black' (black is still associated with crime in the UK media) but majority white as well as other non-bnlack minorities such as teh Portuguese and Hispanic communities. Brixton is thriving in terms of business. Another chestnut is Hackney/Dalston and the London fields areas also now totally yuppy zones. So tell me what exactly is the difference between Brixton and Finchley as they are both middle class zones. Are you then admitting that middle class zones are actual danger points, albeit teh reason you wld rather not walk down the street in Brixton. Please enlighten us all.
How convenient
Other than being run down by a speeding BMW... or beaten up by an arrogant city boy coke-head... or shot in the back with a shotgun for the terrible crime of breaking and entering...
Unfair generalisation? Well look at the fucking bullshit you posted below:
Piss off you boring troll.
Actually its true that the middle classes consume more drugs. But you don't see the consequences as much due to money and power. But I do see a few middle class people in my job, but the majority are working class.
Muddy thinking there ladymuck. The use of drugs shouldn't be a crime IMO, but due to prohibition, the supply is in the hands of violent thugs and criminals with all the social problems that this entails. And its the working class that bear the brunt of this.
You really are a nasty bitch aren't you?
sorry mods, but theres no way I'm ignoring ladymuck's insults here :mad:
this place is only a guide to the real world ...and you don't seem to be learning much from that.
The Middle Classes, tend to in my experience be law abiding. However when they commit a crime the following things will occur:
They will believe they have the RIGHT to commit the crime because they are wealthier or live in a nicer area.
Their crime will cost the COUNTRY more
They will be the first ones on the phone to us if they see so much as a child playing football, but that same person the next day will say "just 5 minutes" when they park in a bus stop.
A few weeks ago, one VERY posh lady parked her car in the middle of the road, causing traffic chaos. When she returned to find a couple of us debating to get the car removed she seemed bemused and wondered why it was such a problem. She recieved a penalty of about £60 for obstruction of the highway. 20 minutes later her equally rich brother who happened to be a solicitor rang up saying it was outrageous that we gave his sister a ticket and he wanted to contest it. Just a pity that accepting the ticket means you admit guilt which we as lower and middle class officers delighted in telling him
Now for the lower class areas. Prostitutes....who do you think visits them? Poor people can't afford their services. it is usually the rich who are arrested for soliciting. There are no prostitutes in rich areas because the wealthy have the biggest voice when it comes to anti-social areas.
Untaxed vehicles, I find more in the council estates, but I get MORE grief off the people in the suburbs, "I forgot" "it's only a month out of date", "it's in the post".
One woman yesterday rang up and said she'd had it in her glove compartment. Just a pity that you HAVE to display it at all times.
Anti-social behaviour? Most of the young hooligans are from the council estates, however they are the ones who give the police least grief. So far I have confiscated weed of 3 people, all from wealthy areas. Never needed to from the poor folk because they accept that smoking it in public is just stupid.
Other middle class crimes? Tax evasion, costs the country millions. Yes a burglary may cost one person a lot of money, but someone fiddling the state on income tax is costing 30 odd million people money.
I can go on and on giving examples of crime in different areas, I can even look for police stats that aren't confidential for you, if I knew it would make you realise that being poor doesn't automatically make you a piece of scum.
I didn't say it did
financially? Even if that's so, what of the price of life, murders, muggings, rapes cause unquantifiable grief to victims, I'm sure you wouldn't say Middle Classes are prime offenders
crack, gun crime always in poorish areas not done by Middle Classes , that's what needs stamping on hard
Phoney, baloney survey - bin it, wate of money
A rich man is just as capable of sitting outside a school watching all the little girls come out afterwards.
A wealthy woman is just as likely to kill her cheating husband as a poor woman.
You can't measure human responses, however it is clear that financial crime is far more prevalent through the middle and upper classes than it is the working class.
Do they then? I thought juvenile gang rape , for example, was more practised by others than those Wealthy people
I just posted about grief to victims being above money considerations
Your answers are very deceptive. you've underlined what I said but as you've ID'd me as a "hater" you have to be seen to disagree. I don't care , I don't think you could argue to save your life
Whowhere, thanks for the contribution.
What is this old bollocks, for chrissake, not gun-running, crack or anything that f*cks up ppls lives. Are you taking that seriously pitched agaisnt all else that happens
Drink driving ruins lives
Date raping ruins lives.
Ditto murders. :rolleyes:
Or serious assaults.
All of which are crimes which the 'middle classes' engage into just as much as the working classes, and in some cases more frequently.
So get a grip and learn to cope with the terrible blow the survey has dealt you. :rolleyes:
You don't believe the survey, I am saying can you disprove it? I am more than willing to accept your findings from a reputable source...go for it.
And if you do you've not the oil in your lamp you think you have:rolleyes:
Aladdin , on reflection stick to Bush/Blair /Sharon - you're on slightly stonger gound there