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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    9 Park Road
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    Come Round, even better tell me where u want to meet so I dont have 2 put up with u nr my house.
    I aint a trendie, I'm a sk8r, who's hobbies include chucking rocks at goths as well as beating them, so come down, could use some fresh targets cos all the wankers in Reading run a mile.
    Damn right I'm prejusice against them, cos their freaks, n yes this is my acount, trouble is goths dont listen cos they think their the ones in the right cos they're not normal so u gotta give them shit n nock some sense into their stupid ass heads b4 they go n do summing stupid, n if u knock enuff of their heads mayb the shitty music will stop n stop fucking innocent kids dying.
    U see all this shit, kids getting shot in America for no reason cos of fucking goths, well that's y I hate em, cos they do, mayb inadvertantly, by buying that shitty music cause that shit... SO fuck telling me to leave off them, theyre scum the music encourages ppl to hurt themsleves/other ppl for no reason.
    I dont give a shit if they do shit cos they're depressed, it's like pouring petrol on a fire to put it out becoming a goth cos ur depressed, sort ur fucking life life out, stop being a freak.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    chill daze & MaLkAv.

    daze, regardless of what you think about Goths, ranting at M like this aint gonna help. Everyone's different, and MaLkAv's just said elsewhere that he's only been getting into the Goth scene for 2 months - it's blatantly not why he has problems with girls.

    And the main reason kids get shot in America is because of problems such as poverty, shit lifestyle and zero expectations in life, drugs, not because there's Goths about.

    [This message has been edited by JB (edited 16-12-2000).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This site seems to be falling apart lately with everyone arguing, leaving and most of all not having respect for other peoples opinions, and everyone just seems to be saying things not caring whether its gonna offend someone.

    Daze I think it was daft of you to put yor address up on the site. You could have looney sending things to you or even turning up at your door.

    Eyes are the window to ones heart....Tears are the proof that you have one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All the loonies can come round, just prooving a point Malkavs another lying gotjhic wanker who says things but doesnt go thru with it. As for only being a goth for 2 months, it takes a certain type of person to b a goth n that type of person dont have luck with women.
    As for kids getting shot, did u see the pics of the kids that shot em??? tell me they wernt goths, they blatently were, n what was theyre favourite band??? Marylin Manson, who promotes Herion, Self Harm, hurting other ppl in most of hisd songs. It's disgusting, they should b wiped out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think the anti-goth joke is wearing a bit thin. Give it a rest.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Daze is not a wanker. I woudl have to agree with him on a lot of his points.

    What you said Rachel "clothes do not define people". Like hell they do!!

    Look around next time you're in a busy street - who are the people you wouldn't go near and who are the people you would instantly go up to, if you wanted to ask directions? You're not gonna go up to the youth dressed all in black, r u?

    Viti kuin muuri.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    loads of the "skaters" and people in the "cool crowd" are the worst aroudn here too, not the slightly odd ones who are in their own band and who dress slightly differently and like different music to the "normal" ones. ive got a lot of m8s who are into indie and hard rock music (not just stuff like marilyn manson, i think hes a weirdo too). in our town the people you're liekly to avoid is all those "cool" ones hanging about on street corners and drinking, and the sort that drive cars around and have races and skate, not ones who lime music like slipknot and korn and whatever else you define as being hard rock/goth!

    i sort of agree with rachael about the sort of clothes not definng you. they can give an insight into your personality, butjust because you like wearing baggy trousers doesnt mean you try and casue trouble about the place, like a lot do here. its just a type of clothes.

    this whole thing is really stupid, the question was about women probs and its turned into a big slagging off of people liking music termed to being "goth". cant you just give it a rest daze?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thnx Turtle <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    no I cant give it a rest, he asked y he cant pull, n we know now, cos he's a goth, as for goth bands, u named Korn n Slipknot, Slipknot r a teeniebopper Metal band, which Goths seem to like cos of their stupid comercialisation bollox with the masks. Korn r just a metal band, the bands I got a problem with r Marylin Manson, Cradle of Filth, Canibal Corpse n all those shitty goth bands
    http://www.theorderofthedragon.com/flash1.htm

    check that site out if u think they're normal ppl. Or look at these song names.

    Death Comes Ripping
    Of Dark Blood and Fucking
    From the Cradle to Enslave
    The Twisted Nails of Faith
    Once Upon Atrocity
    Hallowed Be Thy Name (Shallow Be My Grave)
    One Final Graven Kiss

    Now excuse me if ya dont think only fucked up people would listen to shit with those names.

    As for skaters being bad, erm so, at least we aint freaks of nature

    [This message has been edited by Daze (edited 16-12-2000).]
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    ok i agree that people heavily into marilyn manson and who agree with everything hes singing about and doing and stuff arent exactly sane... i think a lot of those are weird too. but i think its a bit harsh to go condemning people immediately just because they say they listne to goth music, malkav himself said he doenst dress like that in make up and stuff. and i still maintain you cant say that one persons probs are all down to the sort of music they listen to. i cant be bothered to argue this anymore, it seems obvious you arent goign to listen to anything anyones saying and not help with the post at all, and im getting fed up with re-stating my view again and again. so you believe what you like, just dont go tryign to punish people who have asked for advice just coz they like a certain type of music.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am answering the post tho....he asked y he cant pull girls(pretty much) n the answer is He's a goth, none of these firls dont like nice guys shit, u aint a nice guy ur a f00l... that's y u cant pull cos ur a goth!

    That's the answer to his question. n every1 knows it's the truth
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't think that can be the case - 2/3rds of the goth guys I know seem to be attached
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Carriage Return:
    I don't think that can be the case - 2/3rds of the goth guys I know seem to be attached

    to goth girls?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah but what r they attached 2??? something I wouldnt call a nice girl, something that if I got attached to, I would py millions to have some1 saw it off n bury 60ft deep in cement, n then I'd have to be deloused, decontaminated n defumed b4 I felt I was rid of them completely
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    Yeah but what r they attached 2??? something I wouldnt call a nice girl, something that if I got attached to, I would py millions to have some1 saw it off n bury 60ft deep in cement, n then I'd have to be deloused, decontaminated n defumed b4 I felt I was rid of them completely

    seriously daze, i`m not having a go or nothing but, grow up.... i definatly think its odd to listen to that music, but hav'nt you got better things to worry about??? surely, you have to keep the peace, cause one day maybe you`ll get kicked in for doing something that you never even knew the reason for.. why let other people bother you so much (as it obviuosly does)?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it's bloody stupid categorising everyone who's a goth as being the same, but even for the seriously fucked up goths, do you really think it'll help them if you just tell them their lifestyle is evil daze?

    Like I said, it's not that different from telling someone who's a homeless crack addict that their problems are just because they're a druggie, know other druggies and they should sort it out. Doesn't help much. Often a person's lifestyle is the crutch for them, the only way they can cope and feel normal, rather than being the problem in itself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by j9j9:
    to goth girls?


    Yes - most "normal" girls wouldn't want to compete for the makeup.... <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    However for the goth girls, I'd say it was about 50/50. Of course they do their best to drag their men into their decadent lifestyle <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    Unfortunately, I can't comment on any of the goths that daze is talking about as I've never found any like that. Around here they certainly seem to be amoungst the cleaner and calmer community
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I been kicked in a fair few times for nothing, it happens, thing is goths do know why, it's cos theyre goths, I dont get bothered by other ppl except goths, as for telling them they're lifestyle is evil, well mayb if u drill it into them enuff they'll reason what idiots they r n start to change... If every1 just accepts them then they'll think they're normal n r actually wanted.
    As for telling a homeless crack addict their problems r just from the crack... well damn right I would cos to get em off the streets they gotta give up the crack first b4 they can sort out the other problems.
    As for 'normal' goth girls... which dont exist, they dont need to compete for makeup... Paint pens n Big fat markers n Tippex mayb, but doubtful makeup...
    U go sit next to a goth n tell me it dont make u feel kinda sick.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ok daze - i'm a freak of nature am i- is that why i'm earning more in a week than you do in 6 months - is this why i put on a shirt and tie and pull an 11 1/2 hour day 6 days a week at work - so i'm a freak of nature for wanting to live my life the way i want to live it then fine i'm a freak AND PROUD OF IT and if you don't like it you can FUCK OFF - I'm fed up of trying to justify myself to you because quite frankly i don't have to, i'm proud to be exactly who I am and nothing else. if anything you are the person who ahs to justify themselve, i bet you think you're all goody goody - youre probably not racist, you don't have too much trouble with gay's unless they try it on with you, but your opinion on goths make you just as bad as the KKK - hell you have the same principals just a different section of the community - and so before you judge other people make sure no-one can judge you, a certain quote from the bible mentioned that "let he who has no sin cast the first stone." - so if you think there's nothing wrong with you by all means criticise us goths but if there is then SHUT THE FUCK UP
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:

    U go sit next to a goth n tell me it dont make u feel kinda sick.
    It dont make me feel kinda sick.

    Job before last I shared an office with a goth guy, and had coffee with a group including a goth girl

    I've stood in Game nect to a couple o lads talking about Incy Sucs.

    I've completed Area 51 with a goth.

    There is one goth I think is kinda sick - he's an MSCE.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    typical goth, thinking it's okay to b a goth, c theyre all the same... dont realise that they should b ashamed of themselves, n now he starts preaching the fucking bible at me... ffs, wtf??? if some1 said that to me, I'd chuck a rock at them n then ask them y?

    So guess ur not coming to get me then... another load of Goth bullshit, surprise surprise, as for earning more money than me a week?? erm good for u.. Still getting £3.15 at Asda then? 6 days a week?? well at least it keeps u off the streets... makes it nicer for us.

    As for me being as bad as KKK, well another Goth similarity I guess, only thing is I'm not against n e kind of human, just goths, but yes I would happily press a button to wipe out every damn one n n ever feel guilty about it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    Originally posted by RachaelHolmes:
    Typical druggie skater, thinking there's nothing wrong with being a druggie skater!

    Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you have to force it down everyone's throats. Ok your allowed to make your point and voice your opinion and you have now, so please don't go on about it anymore as it's just starting arguments!

    hear hear Rachael!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't you all see it, Daze is actually being kind in a strange & twisted sort of way.

    Last time Daze let on that he is going to leave soon, we all wanted to know why & wanted him to stay.

    Daze has decided that it's nearly time to move on, apparently he does this, but doesn't normally tell people. He told us though, which I took to be a compliment. The only trouble is, (for him) is that we reacted by asking him to stay.

    So, Daze has decided that the easiest thing to do is to make us all dislike him, then he can vanish without upsetting us.

    That's how see it anyway <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    j9
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    wow j9, talk abut lateral thinking to work out why daze is being such a w****r lately!!

    i guess its working... used to think daze was alright (although didnt agree with his goth theory in the posts about beetle wings) until he started ranting on... so now it doesnt really bother me if he stays or goes!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    j9 U R awesome!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    roflmfao.

    Goths suck n thats that!

    n yeah there is things wrong with being a druggy skater... u think i like being on crack 24/7?
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    well daze you did choose it... if you didnt want the risk of getting addicted you shouldnt have got into it should you? totally your choice.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:

    http://www.theorderofthedragon.com/flash1.htm

    check that site out if u think they're normal ppl.

    I looked at this site and I got bored waiting for the menu to load.

    Shyness has a strange element of narcissism, a belief that how we look, how we perform, is truly important to other people
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