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Bullying: Where does it begin
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Why do kidds/adults get bullied? Because there quite, more bright, have somthing others want?
Do you think schools most of all don't really do much in bulling situations? My school and other people who I've spoke to said that their school more or less ignore it. Why?
Do you think schools most of all don't really do much in bulling situations? My school and other people who I've spoke to said that their school more or less ignore it. Why?
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I dont see how schools couldn't do something about it, how can they just ignore it? In my school there dosen't seem to be that much bullying but if there is the teachers ususally sort it out.
Its normally said that the bully normally has problems at home and takes it out on children at school.
It's not just kids though even people in work when adults get bullied. Some shout at you for no reason, some threaten to fire you and some even sexually/physically abuse you. my sister gets shouted at all the time at work and it's not really fair but she has to cope with it because she wants to keep her job, so she just tries to keep her foot in line.
Very good point. This is often true.
It's a confidence and esteem issue mostly. Having low self-esteem and/or confidence reeks off of you like a bad smell. It drives people away. People wont like you until you like yourself type of thing.
I was bullied myself, i had little self-esteem, it reeked off me like a bad cologne. I was short, fat and kinda ugly. Of course this is all change now, im tall slim and hella good looking, Xila will vouch for that. A bully who finds a person with thier head down, kinda quiet, just gets on with work, as a good target. The whole point of bullying is to give the bully a sense of superiority, thus, they will go for the easiest target.
Wanna know how i dealt with it? I smacked the fuckers in the face. Never happened again.
(Of course, it hasnt, my acid toungue can seriously give a verbal beating whenever deserved)
Well done, headbutt the fuckers :banghead:
Then I was bullied by a guy in the year above when I started at senior school - I was an easy target as I was the only guy to go to my senior school from my junior school so I was alone. So I told my form teacher and he got him to stop and I even got a letter of apology off him and he stopped.
Then came the worst type of bullying I think, bullying by people who pretend to be your friends. I had these friends and for four years I put up with them putting me down and acting like I was thick and insulting me. It was only when I made some new friends that I discovered friendships weren't like what I had been experiencing so I disconnected myself from them.
Then in this year I was bullied again by the Head Boy, he kept playing practical jokes on me and would pull me out of lessons for no reason and was just irritating me. But one day he said my mother should have had an abortion as an insult and he hung himself - I went and told my history teacher who I get on with and she spread it round all the staff destroying his reputation with the staff which he absolutely hated - revenge is the best way to deal with bullying.
Again this year I learnt how to stop bullying, in my school when you get to the Upper Sixth you're made a prefect and some of these prefects are appointed to a class in one of the first three years which I was. A guy in my class kept getting bullied by a group of the other boys, I had a word with them and they denied it but I saw it for myself so I told their form tutor (the same history teacher) and together we sorted it out. I think it was one of the best things I ever did at my school.
So the end conclusion would be that if you can't do anything about the bullying, tell someone who can.
As for how to deal with it, I quite like this story,as told to me by my old German teacher. Apparently, a gang of year 16 year old pupils at the school took it upon themselves to make life miserable for kids in the lower years. Then one day, one of their victims went home crying, and told his brother (in the 6th form at the same school) what had happened. The next day, his brother got together with a group of 6th form friends, looked for the bullies, and taught them a short, sharp lesson about how unpleasant it can be to be picked on by people bigger than you. The bullying problem apparently ended quite suddenly after this incident.
At my secondary school, bullying does not get dealt with. The bullies remain supreme whilst victims suffer in silence. There is a hierarchy within schools and those at the top always seem to take it upon themselves to display their superiority by bullying others. They always pick on the vulnerable ones because bullies are cowards, they pick fights they know they can win. They never seem to see this though.
I was bullied for a few years when I started secondary school by some boys in my form. They'd call me ugly and claim I'd die a virgin and never get a boyfriend, they'd laugh at my clothes and the way I looked and throw insults my way. I'd either tell them to "fuck off", turn bright red and at times I'd try and be nice so maybe they would be to me in return. It made me even more self-conscious and I ended up destesting the way I looked. One of the boys who really, really hated me punched me in the nose one day after I tried to get my hair clip back that they had stolen. He made my nose bleed. Did he even get a detention? No. Did I get a letter of apology? No. It eventually filtered out towards the last few years there, but he was always nasty to me. I was a vulnerable one though - quiet, shy and studious. I wasn't unpopular but nor was I really popular. One thing it has taught me though is to respect yourself no matter what anyone else says or does because it is your own opinion of yourself and your own abilities and talents that shape you; not someone else's perception of you.
Anyway, in dealing with bullies don't think dententions and warnings are enough. I think both bullies and victims should be given counselling. If someone has such an insecurity complex that they have to displace it onto someone else and make their life a misery, there is clearly something wrong.
I don't know what schools can really do about it...unless someone is a real bully and can be thrown out.
They get bullied because the Bullys are horrible people who like to have some kind of power over other people. Its not the victims fault
They bully because they are jealous of the victim.
Because the victim is smaller or weaker and an easy target.
Because the victim is different to them in any way.
Because they have an inferiority complex.
Because someone is bullying them.
They might be obsessed with the victim.
Because teachers are shit at dealing with it and they don't nip it in the bud.
Bullying isn't always bad. It can help a person become stronger.
After putting them through often unbearable mental and physical torture....
I don't think it makes people stronger, it wears people down. I suppose it can in some ways make a person realise their self-worth but that shouldn't be after being bullied.
Bullying is always bad.
In some cases, yes.
In what cases?
You seem to like people having pain inflicted on them, you wanted rape and murder made legal sure.:eek:
Although, I'm inclined to believe from your constant quips that you hold no real views, but just get off on being contradictory to everything.
Yes it is but that dosent make it okay for people having to suffer it,does it?
People should not be forced to go through pain and anguish because of other narrow minded bullies who have no life of their own.
Killing is wrong because it violates a person's right to life.
People have problems in life. Period.
Problems that could be easily avoided, why do others have to pick on other youngsters? They should have no reason for it, they are no right to do it.
It's the natural order of things.
Perhaps.
In what cases?
Are you saying that a child deserves to be beaten because of the colour of their skin?
Or that the people who have been bullied in this thread deserved such treatment?
Yeah life is hard, but people have the choice to be decent human beings.
Hmm think I agree with Clandestine. You really don't have any proper reasons to back your views up with.
So as a supposed liberal what about peoples rights to liberty and the pursuit of happiness as defined by that great liberal philosopher Sallier who helped create the American constitution. As a liberal surely the fact that 2 of the 3 main principles of liberalism were infringed would cause you be anti-bullying?
On a more general point, I have never heard such a load of crap. Bullying is hell for anyone who goes through it and the last thing bullied people need is you saying they deserve it. Have you come off libertarian.org long enough to develop some compassion?
I don't think anyone 'deserves' to be beaten.
Evidently their bullies thought they did.
What is 'decent' in this instance?
And why are my political views of consequence?