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I think you could be right, it's like reading something out of Viz, deliberately stupid.
should bloody well hope not! but at least it adds a slightly comic dimension to an otherwise slagging-filled post, no matter how bad the taste.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
I'm not condoning gay bashing. What people do in their private lives is their business, but when you join the military, your life isn't quite as private as it used to be. I do mean the things I said in my first post with the exception of the minefield clearing units and parachute testing. Homos DO create an uncomfortable atmosphere when the rest of the unit is aware of their homos status. Fags could serve openly if they were in separate units. I'm sure they would give a whole new meaning to the term "blanket party". This type of separation is not the same as the segregation the US military had with blacks and whites. This is an issue of respecting the little privacy that soldiers do get. Men and women are billeted separately due to the sexual attraction of the two sexes. How would you guys feel if your sister or daughter were roomed with a man and she had to dress and shower in the same open facilities? How is this different when it's say your brother or son being billeted with a man that might be sexually attracted to him?
I have on question for you guys. Are you guys homos? If you are, that's ok. I just want to know from what angle your looking at this. Have you guys ever served in the military? It's one thing to have a queer neighbor and it's a totally different thing to have a queer room mate.
If my honesty offends you, too bad. Then your too sensitive to be in the military anyway. From what I've read here, unpopular opinions can get one banned from this site. It's obviously hosted outside the great United States where we value free speech. Before you start bashing Americans for "bad taste" as it was stated in the above post. Remember, if it wasn't for us Parliament would be flying a swastika over it right now.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
[This message has been edited by Mr_Perfect (edited 01-09-2001).]
Firstly: Stop with all the "America is great" , "thank us for saving your ass" and "the founders of free speach" crap. Its not important.
Secondly: I don't want to be in the military anyway, so my 'sesitivity' is also unimportant.
Thirdly: you've never hada girlfriend have you?
Firstly: Stop with all the "America is great" , "thank us for saving your ass" and "the founders of free speach" crap. Its not important.
Secondly: I don't want to be in the military anyway, so my 'sesitivity' is also unimportant.
Thirdly: you've never hada girlfriend have you?
Aside from the "America is the greatest!" chest-beating I agree with a lot of what you just said. If one takes out the nationalistic sentiment I think your argument is calm, clear and well-though-out, even if it may offend some bleeding hearts.
There's really no way you can say the USA saved the world (and especially the UK) in WWII. Let's not forget that the USSR brought HUGE pressure to bear on the Eastern Front, and might possibly have carried the show on its own. Yes, the USA took a lot of forces to Normandy, far outstripping the UK contribution - apart from the minor point that the UK was the staging ground for D-Day. Could D-Day have been launched directly from Norfolk Navy Yards? I think not. Yes, the USA did a lot, and a tip my hat to you. But you didn't carry the show alone, so stop deluding yourselves into thinking you did.
Prissy OTOH would be the sort of person that would be worried if you didn't worship his idol. If my homosexuality offends you, too bad. IMHO, you're too sensitive to be in the military. I've yet to see anyone banned for unpopular opinions. This isn't America "Are you, or have you ever been a member ..."; we don't get arrested for burning flags either (provided we do it safely) Don't know if that would have been the case, but I do know that the (somewhat late) American intervention in the second world war certainly made victory a lot easier. Of course, had the UK and Russia fallen, America would probably have followed.
And WTF was a premature anti-nazi? (that was a rhetorical question)
[This message has been edited by Carriage Return (edited 02-09-2001).]
Maybe he has a great ass <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
hehe if you believe anything the american media puts out you need to be examined by a doctor.
Hes right on that one..Wed be buggered if the US didnt join up...However, America would have been taken down a few years later when Germany and Japan controlled the rest of the world.
"An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
Greeks tried gender challenged troops, they did indeed fight to the death, were called the 'holy legion' or some such thing...every last one of them was killed off...now they have found evidence in Greece of syphilis before 600 b.c.! Must have been interesting times indeed!
Diesel
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Actually, a pair of Americans have been banned, seemingly for their unpopular opinions. Hard to believe that anyone is arrested anywhere for burning flags, since that is the proper and respectful way to dispose of them.
And keep the Bible to yourself. Youre obviously so insecure as to come on here complaining about someone else sexuality... you cant be that secure about your own.
If its depraved, deal with it. If its not what you believe in, deal with it. Life goes on. 1 in 10 are gay so hey get used to it buddy. We're all in this together so make the best with it you dumb fuck. *laffs* some people i swear...
Rock on,
~ned
it like America is the alpha-male or something. i dont get it. self appointed leaders of the world?
Eddie Izzard had it right when he said theyre the new Roman Empire. George Dubya is like Elmer Fudd as a president.
Slowly. Downward.
~ned
Why do people think that homosexuals are ALL about sex? Its so funny! People think that thats ALL they ever think about and ALL they ever do. Like its a 24 hour buggering session, day in, day out. Its fuckin hilarious. They have lives, too.
the american President Roosevelt was a transvestite. Its true!
Rawk!
~ned
In an all male environment the atmosphere can be pretty tense a lot of the time unless they are pissed. It only takes one comment from a straight or gay soldier to cause a tense situation to get worse. If there is no camraederie within the ranks then we dont have an effective fighting force, I think the decision to let gays in the army should have been made by the people who have to serve alongside them, because only they know if they will get along with them.
Well its probably something to do with the enormous promiscuity of homosexuals. Living in SF im sure you have noticed this. Just go into a gay bar and your eyes will be opened..Now I dunno about straight clubs/bars in the states but as far as im aware they dont have rooms set aside for fucking, they dont just screw all over the place, on the stairs, beside the bar etc etc.
majority of gay men are whores.
Not saying straight men are any different but the women kinda keep us in check. They dont really go for fuckin around so much.
"An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
It would help if some would read my post from beginning to end.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
Other people have posted the same opinions, but civilly, and haven't been banned.
I don't know why you've quoted "don't"
<IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> true, true
balddog, i cant believe you think that the majority of gay men are whores? where the fuck did you get that idea from, and where's your evidence?! a large number of people on this board seem to be suffering from an attack of huge stereotypes, whereby all gay men must be and act like a sex-mad boy george. its a dmaned good job i'm straight, else i'd be fuckin mental by now.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
I know this from experience...If you dont believe me just go to a few gay bars
Ask as often as you want. Unless I know you personally then you wont get an answer.
dun dun DUH!!!! the plot thickens!
Not saying straight men are any different but the women kinda keep us in check"
so gay mens promiscuity, has nothing to do with them being homosexual, it's because they are men. So what you mean is that the majority of men are whores. It's just that strait men don't get the chance?
Hmmm Gay, Straight or mental...........I'm mental I didn't fly over the cuckoo's nest I stayed.
peacechild
[This message has been edited by peacechild (edited 04-09-2001).]
That may be the case but I dont know for sure seeing as gay men dont have women to deal with. The fact remains that gay men are more promiscuous than straight men. I dont know the definate answer, women watching over us was one more tonque in cheek possibility.
Originally posted by Sean_K:
Actually, a pair of Americans have been banned, seemingly for their unpopular opinions.
we don't know why they were banned, but I would, and I assume the moderators did ban them for their obnoxious way they expressed themselves.
Other people have posted the same opinions, but civilly, and haven't been banned.
Exactly, Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing over here, you don't have to agree with it, but you do have to put up with it.
unlike the the mindless masses across the pond. You have great minds that think for you. If something is undesirable to them, they deem it undesirable to you and thus make it go away.
Censorship in a free empire?
I don't think your as free as you do.
but hey, keep up with the flock, I guess I have a censor target on me now.
No one has addressed the privacy issue I mentioned earlier. I made very valid points about ones right to privacy from someone who might be sexually attracted to them.
Unfortunately there is no perfect answer. Putting homos in their own units and barracks creates a whole new set of problems. One being, even fags deserve privacy and they don't want to be roomed with someone who might lust for them. Two, the army doesn't need a barracks that's having a fuck fest every night. All the points have been made here in why they can't be openly queer and serve. The policy of "Don't ask, don't tell." which the US currently has in place is the best possible solution. Homos can serve provided they curb their weird desires. Once they've "come out" or get caught they must be removed from the military due to the tension they have now created in their unit.
It's time the majority stops conforming to accommodate the minority.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
[This message has been edited by Mr_Perfect (edited 05-09-2001).]