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unless you or the unit were talking about your personal lives.
It has more to do with them being young and in their physical peak more than it has to do with maturity. Also at their young age their minds can be molded by the military.
I've said nothing about attacking a female roommate. It's her RIGHT to privacy. I have 2 daughters and I certainly wouldn't want them in the military with male roommates. You being a queer, I don't imagine you have kids so you wouldn't know what it's like.
So what your saying is that all military facilities should be coed? I guess that makes sense to a homo like you. The women have nothing you want and you already get billeted with other men.
I never said homos would be constantly making unwelcome advances, but fags do get caught in the barracks with their fellow fags. Once that happens the whole unit knows they're queer and it changes the work atmosphere. The other soldiers now know that they are sexually attracted to other men and this violates their privacy. Mature or immature, that's just the way it is. If the nazis were breathing down your necks once again and bombing London , you wouldn't care how politically correct the military was so long as they did their job and saved your ass.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
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emphasises manliness, godliness, and cigar smoking <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif">
It's time the majority stops conforming to accommodate the minority. "
AKA "mob rule" Hmm, theres an idea. Lets make gays wear pink triangles; lesbians or women who won't sleep with a man just because he wants them to can have black triangles. Jews can have yellow stars. Oh wait, someone already thought of this. would you have found it acceptable for joe random bloke to have checked you out? No, then it has got noting to do with the other person being lesbian, it is simple harassment. and unacceptable.
The whole issue of nature/god's design doesn't belong in here, but homosexuality is a part of nature, and one that strengthens the family unit.
Ok listen up pillow biter. Every time someone disagrees with a homo, they're made out to be bigoted nazis. I don't care if your hobby is packing your buddy's fudge. That's your business, but I'm not a bigot because I don't want to share a room with a man who likes fucking other men. It's a matter of respect.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
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"one of these things doesn't belong". I'll give you a clue - it begins with the letter "M" Well, man gay men have kids they care for and look after. It may be an environmental trigger, which ties in with the darwinist +ve selection pressure. I certainly think having segregation is a mistake. In peacetime it is a luxury (to salve the puritan fear) you can afford, under combat conditions can you afford to deal with people having to deal with the additional stresses of finding they can't always maintain the separate billeting? That seems sensible. Not.
to drop to the level you seem to be running on, it would be awful - there would be all the competition for the prime american weiner.
It does make sense to me. Living and working with a bunch of people on a professional basis, regardless of how likely they were to be a sexual interest in a social situation.
Perhaps I'm just braver than the average american soldier, but I've shared beds with heterosexual women (once a single bed with a alleged promiscuous lass*) let alone tents and dorms. Interestingly, it was church activities where segregation was enforced. I guess there might be some truth to the thought "the religious have no morals of there own"
*this one worried me, as I had been led to believe I would be the victim of harassment. It is this experience that informs my opinion that it is ignorance that makes the sleeping with gays such an issue.
this and the the don't ask, don't tell policy suggests that privacy isn't the issue. "as long as I don't know you're gay I don't mind you scoping me" yeah, right. Wrong. I'd rather we surrendered to the Nazis, than become like them.
No one is talking about mob mentality here. I'm not saying let's drag all the queers into the streets and beat them to death. It is a thought though. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"> I'm just saying that society has already conformed too much as it is not to offend a just a few. Notice I said offend and not kill. A big difference. Examples of the majority conforming where I live: My son couldn't make a Christmas card in school for me and my wife. He had to make a "holiday" card. Where my kid goes to school there's maybe one kid in his class that doesn't celebrate Christmas. Local high school sports teams have to change there logo and name because Red Raiders offends Native Americans. There isn't a fucking Native American in the whole goddamn town. The fucking St Patrick's day parade in Boston almost got cancelled one year because the fags insisted on marching in it. No other group marches in the parade based solely on their sexual preference. Luckily the courts actually turned the fags down on that one.
I'll tell you one thing. The "mob" as you call it, is getting fed up with it all. When it happens you'll all be running back into that fucking homo closet you came out of.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
That is priceless. I might even make it my signature. Can I then ask why you are a bigot?
pillow-biter, homo, fudge-packer. All well known terms of respect. You can call me gay, and describe me as homosexual. Here you can refer to me as CR, Carriage, Carriage Return, or sir.
If you want to argue that we should be quiet about our activities then keep the fuck out of what you imagine I do or don't do in private.
I hope you aren't banned for that outburst because I don't want to face another month of people moaning that you were banned for expressing your anti gay views
In our military, (you know, the most powerful military in the world) it wouldn't be common for a woman to find herself in a foxhole period. Let alone with a man. In Vietnam about 7 women died as a result of combat versus 58,000 men. In America, the men do most of the fighting. Shit, no wonder we've always kicked your ass in the past.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
Once, on your home turf. And forgive me if I'm bringing too much truth to the issue, it was british men against american men, women and children. Kind of like america against vietnam.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
I'll give you credit though. You did bring us Benny Hill and Monty Python.
"I'd rather have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
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You do know that the Americans are disarming their people for information war. Ours are trying too. Europe, OTOH is trying to encourage the use of info arms
*sighs*
Mr_Perfect...We took over 2/3 of the globe from an island smaller than Florida..You have 5 times our population, god knows how many times our land mass and resources..Is it surprising such a large country could dominate such a small country. The difference is a quantity vs quality thing. If our soldiers were as numerous as yours then you would be wiped out.
Why would you bring this up on a thread about gays? Please stick to the topic as you are alienating everyone who even slightly supported you.
Respectfully, SIR! It would appear that we have a conflict in basic belief and value systems, that you would prize SELF-ESTEEM, and many of us would value SELF-RESPECT. Self esteem is the banner for what we would call the degenerate left, whereby a person could be dumb as a doorknob, incapable of self-sustained life, and STILL feel pride within themselves because it is justified by their taking up space. It fosters arrogance, self-righteous self-importance, and a general anarchy.
SELF-RESPECT is based upon looking at a yardstick, and measuring your worth relative to accepted values. Self-respect means that if you are nothing more than a lump of fetid fecal matter, then you must ACCEPT YOURSELF FOR WHAT YOU ARE!!! and NOT couched in lies and distortions. Self-respect means an acceptance of responsibility and accountability, lost concepts within the degenerate left.
You foster the ideal that if the young thug mugs a helpless old lady, then it it NOT the thugs fault, but you will love and cherish the little thug anyway, and lovingly provide all of the dreams missing within his perverted little life, paid for by society as a whole. NO ACCOUNTABILITY, and NO RESPONSIBILITY for his depravity.
We hold to the ideal that "if you want to try that shit on me, then JUST BRING IT!" What you will NOT do is subjugate us to your nefarious agenda. What you will find will be your edification...
When the "old lady" is Mother Nature, she WILL bring about the reconning...
We are not here to demean, attack and offend those that your site is directed towards, but call it as we see it, in the hope that those 16 > 25 year olds might find their way to SELF RESPECT, and improve the condition of life on your island.
DOM... this is NOT intended as confrontation, but a clarification in motive...
You have banned me once already, and you CERTAINLY can do it again, at your discretion... hopefully, you might try an open dialogue this time prior to censuring me once again...
Out of interest, is it possible for any non-right-wing philosophy to be non-degenerate in your eyes?
And the pilgrims, and language..yawn...and my dad could beat up your dad...
I'm the one who started this post and I DID want to read your responses. i don;t agree with many of them but that what opinions are all about. If we all agreed there wouldn't be much discussion on the internet discussion boards, would there?
The problem is that most of the anti-gay posts aren't based on fact but on prejudice, misinformation and stereotypes. That is all you have proved. I think that you have also (nearly all at some point) said that being openly gay is the problem, and that if sexuality is kept personal then there is no problem.
I personally believe that anyone should be able to serve their country in the armed forces, regardless of race or sexuality. Contrary to belief of some on this thread this doesn't mean I am a closet homosexual (any more than I am a closet asian or black) but that I want to be sure that MY armed forces are filled with the best soldiers - not just the best heterosexual soldiers.
Personally i think an obsession/hatred/fear of homosexuality usually signifies something quite obvious.
Loads of Right-Wing Tory MPs get caught in bed with their 19 year old male "researcher" the day after making some crazy homophobic speech in the house-re Baxter Basics.
As to Bezerker and co i have absolutely no doubt that they are all red blooded ,gun toting ,commie hating all american butt-fucking faggots.
But i could be wrong.
I guess that anything I have a problem with I am really all for? Think not. Homosexuality is........nevermind you are to callow to understand life
And yet you say I shouldn't be worried about my ass being raped, 300+ a year, I don't know anyone who had had that much sex in there life. OK I know one <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">
Now these are averages made up from American gays so I dont know how it compares to the UK. I also think that 300 parters a year sounds ludicrous so im trying to find out where they got that number.
For the UK people, the CDC, I believe is a govt organisation and a very good source.
Point of clarification:
Degenerate Left is generally reserved for those whose behavior or beliefs are represented by the resultant degeneration of the value in concepts of RESPONSIBILITY, and ACCOUNTABILITY, who prize self-esteem over self-respect, and believe that they can get away with ANYTHING because of their "rights". It is the basis of arrogance, rather than pride. They have nothing within their lives worthy of respect, so they push that they are deserving of all that they desire because they exist. The degenerate left are them who believe that they are owed a life of leasure, sitting on their fat incompetent pathetic and worthless asses, while it is paid for by others who WILL earn what they receive and enjoy.
The Degenerate Left are responsible for the degeneration of YOUR nation, and the rapid decline of mine. Rampant immorality has been at the root of the destruction of most "empires": the self-absorbed hedonism.
I accept divergent concept without labeling it as Degenerate Left, BUT... if the shoe fits, wear it in arrogance.
Spoken as a definitive sissy-boy...
My nation has within its Constitution a Bill of Rights, which assure the freedom of speech. It was written within an understanding that speaking your piece brings with it the requisite responsibility for your words, and accountability for them. Two centuries ago, when our Constitution was written, if you demeaned or defamed a person in public, you were then required to participate in a duel, to the DEATH, to back up your words. It was based in the concept of HONOR, obviously foreign to your experience.
There have previously been attempts made to challenge my masculinity, and my revulsionion to faggotry. The cretins were edified to the error of their beliefs. You have such a feeling of security, pathetic little geek, hiding behind your monitor. Would you espouse the same in my face, up close and personal? You have the "right" to say anything which you want, but also the responsibility to back it up, and the accountability for what comes from your words.
If you doubt that, come look me up, and we shall discover if you might be led to a "clearer understanding"...
Dom ~ while you contemplate my banning for the transgressions of this post, remember that it was "soapbarbpy" who picked the fight... Thank-you
But then that wouldn't fit your stereotype would it?
But even if those stats ARE correct, there is only 5x times the risk. How many of you raving heterosexuals out there have 60+ anon partners per year? Not many, I bet. So it carries 5 times the risk from MORE than five times the number of partners...surely that equates to a lower risk factor on a one-to-one comparison.
Funny how stats can be made to read anyway you want them to...
I could meet you outside your trailer park home in north carolina and proceed to educate you in the ways of educated normal people while your wife/sister looked on.
But i doubt if your mum would let you.