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but thats why it is enjoyable, to make people do it and have babies!
and girls should know how reliable the contraception is and then decide if there prepared to take the risk of getting pregnant. there isnt any excuse for getting pregnant and not having the baby.
on the good ol' jerry springer show he once said that if you are not ready for a baby, then you arent ready for sex
i disagree with that because my 29 year old, married friend wasnt sure that she wanted the baby even up to when she was in the delivery room pushing!!!
sex is not just there for procreation and you seem to mention only girls when it comes to responsibility over contraception, dont forget that it takes 2 to make a baby
in an ideal world abortion would not exist however our world is far from perfect however, if abortion was unacceptable to you all the time, would it still be unacceptable if it was means to save the womans life?
your view is very black and white - moral issues are somewhat grey
you're entitled to your opinion but just remember - for some of us there is no such thing as God and so therefore this argument is based on an irrelevance for many of us.
Most 'Girls' don't have sex with abortion in mind. Contraception does fail, what are you suggesting - get rid of all contraception and return to the days when women had 15 children in 15 years ? I recon your post is ust an attempt to wind us up. What about the boys who want to have sex all the time?
Whatever dipshit. Dunno if you know this, but men get girls pregnant, you know, not just girls themselves. Why should girls have to suffer having a baby they dont want alone- a hell of a lot of blokes wouldnt stop around to be a father, but, of course, thats ok because theyre men.
Hate to break this to you but girls dont decide to have abortions because its a good way of passing some leisure time, you know.
Random point: In the words of Billy Connolly, "Only a celibate could seriously come up with the withdrawal method as a good form of contraception." Sadly most moralists and religious bigots seem to still have the attitude that girls are second-class citizens, and dont deserve to have the choice over their own bodies. You can be sure as hell that if men got pregnant, abortion would be the greatest invention of all time among the religious moralists and bigots of this world.
Oh please...You are now insulting me
no i tbink that people shouldnt have sex unless there prepared to suffer the possible consiquences. contraception isnt 100% failsafe and people should realise that before they use it and decide if they are willing to take the 2-3% chance that they could become parents as a result.
i realise that it takes 2 to make a baby but its the girl who suffers the consiquences so it should be the girl who makes the desision so if she does get pregnant then the responsibility is hers.
WHAT? But surely so can sex after marriage then? What difference does marriage make to a trusting longterm or a shorterm relationship?
I've been with the same boyfriend for 7 years and he's the ONLY person I have had sex with and probably the only person I ever will have sex with. we are as committed as we can be and I don't believe marriage will contribute anything to what we have in our relationship. It won't make it better it won't make it worse. I don't WANT to get married - I do want to have a sexual relationship with my partner. You may think it's wrong for youo but don't be blind to other peoples needs and wants Idiot!
I've been having "sex before marriage" for 5 years and it hasn't led to heartbreak and problems. Qualify your statement, where's your evidence, your facts? If you got out into the world a bit more and stopped judging people on their lack of religious belief perhaps your statements would be more correct.
I could sleep with 100 people and never have any heartache or sleep with one man after marriage and suffer complete and total hearbreak. It makes no difference if you're married, there's more to it than that. Bill Clinton was Married but he still had extra marrital sex which must have been upsetting for Hilary, where's your facts.
God you really make me angry!
if you don't want to have sex then don't but let the rest of us make up our minds for ourselves. don't judge people so much!
[ 16-01-2002: Message edited by: byny ]
Go back to Catholic College and learn how to touch up small boys, you sad person. Find out about this place from the Daily Mail did you?
You have your own morals, and I respect that, but people who think you are a shithead are not evil who 'deserve to suffer the consequences'. And as I said, if men like you got pregnant, women wouldnt be so put down if they chose termination. At least youve grown up enougfh to realise that all the evils in the world arent the fault of women.
Go back to Lords you bigot. I bet you still call black people n*ggers too.
Be Her Choice as she is going to have to carry the foetus around inside of her for the next 9 months.Also, she will have to make lots of sacrifices if she keeps it.
[ 16-01-2002: Message edited by: Agrofrog ]
If you don't think it's right to kill a 'baby', then why a 'foetus', which according to your calculations would automatically become a baby at 6 months? It may not look much like a baby before 6 months but the cells are living.
I don't have a problem if someone wants an abortion. That's fine and it's their choice. But abortion should never be seen as a form of contraception, and therefore the point in time when a foetus becomes a baby should not need to be cited as reason why termination is acceptable.
To get an abortion you have to have the consent of 2 doctors, you are sent for counselling and you have to make up your mind before a number of weeks. It's not something girls skip along to do in the afternoons for a bit of fun but a serious life decision and most women would prefer not to be in that situation.
I don't believe in saving yourself for marriage and I think beer monster is basing his argument on a religious belief of his own. He obviously has a certain kind of morals but likes to think that anyone who doesn't share those 'morals' is immoral!
True also that we shouldn't be basing our arguments on 'when's a cell a baby' either you agree with abortion or you don't - it's not a matter of weeks or months or cells or life. but a matter of choice (Not demand!)
i thin about 70% of women who are "raped" know there rapists so are they really being raped or do they just say they are afterwards. i dont know but if someone really has been raped and is pregnant she can always give the baby up for adoption, i can see that she might not want much to do with it wonce its born.
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[ 24-01-2002: Message edited by: Squinty ]
You sick, sick bastard. When you have to deal with someone you love dearly having been raped THEN start spouting your shit out. have you any idea how many users of these boards have been raped, I can think of at least three.
Of course, you have to use this justification, cos the only way youll ever get laid is if you do grab some girl (or, in your case, pre-pubescent boy) of the street.
Wake up to the real world. Not everyone has such a warped view of the Bible and most people are compassionate enough to feel sympathetic for rape victims rather than stone them because of their apparent lack of resistance to rape.
Dont feed the troll
Ignore him.
the Bible? Can you give me some reasons that fall into my realm of understanding..I don't believe in God you see, and I don't live my life according to the rules of a story book.
If you want to convince a christian then use the bible.. I'm not one, will never be so I need a more convincing argument.
OH and can you do something about your grammar? It's their not there. Perhaps you should sort out your literacy before you try and run the world according to something called the Bible.
I know you are here to wind us up but at least have a convincing argument!
Sorry for what? Dont worry <IMG alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
I've kept out of this because I don't see the point in trying to change someone's view on abortion.
But Beermonster, your views have taught me something. If there really is a God like the one you go on about, bring on hell!
You are a sick, twisted individual to even think that women are in control while being raped. You are an individual who has no idea about the complexities of this world. You are to put it bluntly, a sad, sorry little individual.
ellie - *hugemassivehugs*
byny - i agree with everything you've said, and you've said it a lot better than i could have, so i won't bore anyone with my opinions <IMG alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> if you want to know, substitute my name for byny's and you'll be away <IMG alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> only i'm not in a 7 year relationship, nor planning any children in the near future. meh, minor details.
Well at least here in the states there is a lack of babys going up for adoption so the child could actually have a loveing home.
Hadicapped huh? Isn't the smartest man alive today only able to use a finger and his eyes?
I do not murder. As a country founded under God I am a protector of it and it's interests. If I kill it is like the Israelites killing the palastinians, it's under the torch of Justice from God.
Taliban = Oppressing the population (especially the women) and starving them, while holding public excutions.
Balkans = Crazy Psycho killing off a ethnic group
Somolia = Gangs runing the streets, rapeing and pillaging the land
Desert Storm = Another Crazy, commiting genocide and also threatening our oil supply (see I even admitted it, OK).
Besides, my only involvement in war is preparing the Jamming equipment so that every aircraft we have can deliver it's strike packages without being shot down. <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0">
We were both working full time and I was on the pill. I got pregnant. Never in a million years did I think it would happen to me, but it did.
I was 6 weeks gone when I found out. I agonised for 3 weeks over what I should do.
I knew in my heart that a termination was the best option. We had very little money, inadequate living arrangments and I didn't want to bring a child up the way that I was brought up, no money, no proper home etc..
Whoever tells you that making the decision to kill your own flesh and blood is easy, has no idea what they are talking about.
It was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, and something which will stay very clear in my mind until the day I die.
I am 21 now, nearly 22. Still with the same boyfriend, we are both still working and are hopefully going to buy a house this year.
We think about what would have been, every single day. Not a day goes by where I don't think maybe I picked the wrong choice, maybe I was selfish etc..but in the end I had to make the choice I did and I have to live with it.
To all the Pro lifers out there, I'm sorry but you don't know sh*t and you shouldn't judge people like myself because you have no idea what it's like.
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