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And Jacqueline, obviously you dont quite understand English being a naive little Danish girl. So simply put, my reference is indeed valid since you are quite likely to hear invectives such as traitor (albeit "race" traitor) issued by members of this well known US group of bigots. The parallel in attitude is what applies here, nowhere did i say he was a member (though without any evidence of his supposed moderation, I'd think he'd fit in with them quite nicely).
Being a naive little Danish girl, doesn't imply in any way, that I don't know English.
And for your info, I didn't say that you had called him a member, but
According to my English dictionary (the one I use frequently, due to my big lack of the English language), to call and compare isn't the same. Maybe you got confused by the fact that they both start with a c?
*flushes eyelashes and wanders off*
Disagreements in policy circles leads to compromise positions not flagrant and unwarranted character assassinations such as has been the stock in trade in these board discussions from a particular faction.
But I think that everyone is pretty aware of what the KKK stands for.
The comparison is not in what they stand for so much as the rhetoric they apply to any who disagree with them. The term traitor has appeared frequently over the years in their inflammtory outcries.
Sorry but that was a typical "mud sticks" approach that you took. You know damn well that by comparing someone with the KKK you imply that they hold the same beliefs...
As for the "traitor" claims, it is apparent that you hold you country in contempt for just about every action, the EU just happens to be one of the US's major competitors and of course they are also anti- a large percentage of current US policy.
Whilst *Sophie's* traitor calim may be tenous, your KKK one has no link whatsoever. It should be retracted really.
Now, if you'd compared him any other sociopaths...
Nothing wrong with the receiver, maybe there's a problem with the sender?
I know that football fans who live in one end of town, and support the other ends team, are also called traitors by their neighbours. That could also, among many others, been used as an example.
But you chose to use the KKK, and I am sorry, but someone doesn't mention the KKK just for the sake of mentioning something. It's serious, and not just one of those everyday expressions.
Before comparing anyone with memebers of the KKK (or Nazis for that sake), then I would suggest that you please do a careful background check, cause obviously you don't have a clue what the fuck you are talking about.
Thank you!
Maybe you should just learn to express yourself better, and with examples with more relevance? Just a suggestion though.
Fantasy? At times I really wish. At times ignorance really seems to be bliss. But for me it isn't fantasy, it's reality.
Being in "mild" actual situations, speaking with first hand witnesses of the rough stuff, hearing from people who actually have an insight to all of this, makes me pretty sure of the fact that I am referring to reality in the region.
Though of course, that can't be compared to all of your reality paper-work :rolleyes:
YO! MoK!!!
Y'all gots it raht, thisie heah tahm!
(i.e. "I heard that there were "homicide" bombers in VN, I also heard that North vietnamese sometimes strapped bombs to babies and small children. Trying to use the American military personnels humanity against them as a weapon.
Did anyone on this boad ever witness or hear a first hand account of this happening?")
Maybe you should have asked about Vietnamese people being chucked out of American helicopters. Like you, I've only heard about that, so an eye witness account from Greenhat's aging cheerleaders would be invaluable...
Meaning he actually has zero access to intelligence data....
Trust an officer to get it more concise:
Check out a Hollywierd rendition: heard it was common practice in that AO...
A diplomat, huh? "Make friends and influence people?"
ROFLMFAO...
Fortunately for the international community we dont have people with such limited scope of reality such as you and (as so appropriately named) you "cheerleaders" adhere to.
I suggest you war dogs go back to your kennels, events are not unfolding as your hawkish predictions had presumed they would, nor as quickly. From Vienna to Brussels to New York and Washington, the rhetoric has worn too thin to impress an increasing number of policy makers and world leaders.
Indeed, and your implication was noted, personally I just don't believe that the KKK comparison is even close to being valid.
October 1939 to April 1940
Look it up. Also look up some of the comments made by those of your "pedigree" during that time period.
Actually, I'd look at most of 1938/39 too...
Now those same people want to try again.
"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it..."
Guess that explains the '93 WTC bombing, the attack on the USS Cole and the US Embassy bombings, huh?
If people insit on WW2 comparisons then the hawks defeat themselves.....
A major critique of the 'appeasers' is that they did not make it clear the they would go to war (Hitler never wanted to fight Britain or the US), in this circumstance it is more than obvious that we will go to war if necessary..............
Let's see, the objective of the Gulf War was to get Saddam out of Kuwait. Are his forces still there?
Hang on, its not that simple. The appeasers stood by and watch Hitler arm himself, so that German forces once again became a threat. They watched him support Franco, start his hate campaign against the Jews, annexe Austria, then the Czechs and in all this time they considered that he wasn't a threat.
Suddenly he overtly threatens Poland and people wake up. Too late guys.
In the meantime a certain MP, in disgrace, called Winston Churchill was warning of the danger - The Gathering Storm he called it - and was dismissed as [in today's terms] a warmongerer, or a hawk.
Notice any similarity?
Now I'm not saying that the issues are identical, but you cannot ignore that there is evidence [apparently] that Saddam is re-arming. he has already invaded two neighbours (both times unsuccessfully) and only a watchful eye and direct action will prevent him from doing so again.
But Saddam isn't Hitler. He isn't an expansionist; 12 years have passed since his modest attempts at expansionism, and he doesn't even appear interested in controlling all the territory he currently has, let alone increasing it. He stockpiles weaponry, but so does Israel, so does the US.
That lessons should be learned from history is a truism, but it is not one that should be, that can be, as rigourously applied as the current hawks attempt to. Neither Bush nor Blair have much knowledge of history, or they would recognise that the comparison with WW2 is so remote as to be worthless. And the hawks aren't always right. If JFK had listened to the hawks during the Cuban crisis, the probability that neither you nor I would be sitting here is dramatically increased.
Of course he is an expansionist. Otherwise he wouldn't have made those attempts would he? And what will he do when he has nuclear weapons to use as a weapon of blackmail in order to maintain the gains he will take?
Your pom-poms are starting to look a little threadbare...