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It might have been some help if this thread wasn't 2 years old
There are 2 types of DJs we have. One is more often seen in the underground style of music like Hardcore & Drum & Bass. These types of DJs will enjoy what they do more than any other, play music they love & share it with everyone else that has the same passion as them and also have their own unique style of playing out and will take risks with new music, find music what no other DJ will get their hands on.
The other type of DJ is more seen in the Dance music scene especially in the last 5 years, around the mid to end of 1999. These types give Dance a bad name because they will do it more so to get an image & find music that nobody will have for 3 months, tottaly rinsing the tune which then be played by other DJs that only have one type of music they play and will charge stupid amounts of money to play mainstream crap that's already been played to get rich and an image. These DJs drag Dance down & get it pigeon-holed and as long as they do what they do and maintain a hold over the UK's youth, the music that used to be great will be gone forever and the shit that is todays Dance will be the only Dance music around.
If we had more of the underground type of DJ in the Dance scene and if these so called "superstar" DJs would let the budding new DJs and producers play out more then it would be more fun and wouldn't be as shite as it is now. Dance as a genre will not die, ever but there are sub-genres that will die but not die soon enough. I've been listening to Jungle since the Ragga era and we are into the so called Brakbeat Kaos era now and if you listen to it, it's never really changed as much as Dance music has because it's never been ruined by fame hungry DJs and producers like Dance is today.
Plus nobody ever 'let' me play out, I promoted my first night alongside friends.
Did anybody else pick up on the Dance music being 14 years old line in the first post?
it's over ...like every other genre ...it's time is up.
Is it fuck.
Comercialised 'Clubbing' is becoming less popular but the underground rave scene is thriving.
Yes, people are turning their backs on the 'trance by numbers' type stuff, but thats with good reason.
Given that this thread was started 2 years ago I think the poster has been proven wrong.
The only thing thats happened is that all the journo's complaining are either going through early mid-life crisis or are so out of touch they no longer know which promoters to blag freebies off.
punk blues jazz etc ...all have done the same thing ...will always have their fans but ...something else is on the horrizon and i'd be putting my money on musicians.
this time round ...eastern european yiddish ...seriously.
fiddles the lot with a technological edge.
bet ya ...
The underground styles are radically different to the dance music you hear on your radio you know. As Bong said dance music is a very broad term - It's like me saying guitar music is dead.
Most of the underground scene has never become 'popular'. How much Hardcore, Jungle, D&B and Gabber have you heard?
These scenes are still thriving.
Quite possibly, but that is not to say that dance music is dead.
i'm not trying to diss your taste here ...just s aying what i have seen with ...punk blues ...guitar bands etc ...and now with the MONEY ...THAT MATTERS.
face it ...every kind of music has its moment and then fades away ...and thats where dance is at the moment ...fading away.
What you are taling about is 'popular' dance - clubs like Cream and Ministry.
Totally different scenes mate.
Dance music is such as broad term, to say that it's all dead or dying is just rubbish.
Hardstyle is another name for Nu NRG/hardhouse/hardtrance. A sound that hasn't really moved on since Tony de Vit died. And I'm sorry, you can't call what that nonsense does "dirty hard bass". Neh neh neh on the off beat. That ain't bass! Listen to grime/eski, yardcore, ragga if you want dirty hard bass!
I think it would clear a dance floor in about 30 secinds unless there were people there who actually liked this type of music.
David Bowie is doing dance remixes these days?!
grime/eski, yardcore, ragga are not my scene and if you look back I said I was listening to harstyle for ages without realising it had a different name.
TDV Was a god to me and god knows where music would be if he was still alive. TDV was the first dj i ever heard play hardstuff back in the day when he was a resident at a back street club in Derby (and i had the pleasure of meeting him on a few occasions, i was also goin to sundissential when he was resident on a sunday sfaternoon). The music he played, u can tell hard music of today evolved from it but it's hardly like the hardstyle played out today. If you're not that into then I guess u don't listen to it much which explains your theory on the bass line.