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Is dance music dead
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Many people are of the opinion that dance music's popularity and quality has now peaked in the UK and it's all downhill from here.
They may have a point. Cream and Gatecrasher have scaled down their operations. Major DJs like Oakenfold are taking their acts to the US, where interest is rapidly increasing.
'Dance Music' is 14 years old this year. Is it time for retirement?
They may have a point. Cream and Gatecrasher have scaled down their operations. Major DJs like Oakenfold are taking their acts to the US, where interest is rapidly increasing.
'Dance Music' is 14 years old this year. Is it time for retirement?
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The commercialisation of the scene is a bad thing and the sooner the "big name DJ's", that charge extortionate amounts of money, piss off the better. DJ's like Oakenfold really annoy me charging £100,000 for a 2 hour set. They aren't even that good DJ's, there are far far better DJ's than Oakenfold these days, the only reason he gets booked is because he is a big name that everyone knows and pulls the crowd. This is the same with Jules and the rest of them. They advertise the name, not their talent. People need to boycott the biggest name DJ's that charge loads of DJ sets and have little talent; we should support more unknown, more talented DJs. Big name DJ's make clubbing far more expensive than it should be because they charge so much for a set. This in turn causes the clubs to charge more for tickets to pay for the DJ fees. DJ's like Sander Kleinenberg should be saluted for doing it for the music. Sander is holding a night in Ibiza at DC10 on the 6th September and the entrance fee is absolutly free!!!
I must say the comercial crap gives cause for concern. in local clubs where i live they have started playin this alot more. this is due to the fact that it attracts ur average person, not ur averge clubber. and it also has the effect of keeping the e-heads away, which is excellent news for clubs with drug problems.
However despite this, there are plenty of wild venues & u only have to take a look at sum of these and witness the 1000's still slaves to the dance.
I agree that the 'big' name bj's are really a load of bollux...its the smaller local dj's that I am in favour of...non of this commercial shite either!
Dance Music - Always and Forever
I totally agree, the commericial scene has ruined dance music in my opinion, but there are still some banging tunes that give you that same rush, its just a case of finding them. As for the covers of old tunes, thats because they were and still are some of the best tunes about, and you can't beat them. ok its lame doing a 2002 cover of it, but its nice to hear a few of them now and again no ?
I don't think dance is dead tho, just gone underground, well for the more hardcore tracks at least. I listen to shoutcast from time to time, have heard some really good tunes on there sometimes, worth a listen
I have actually been thinking of setting up a shoutcast radio station dedicated to non-stop hardcore dance/house music, if anyone is interested in helping don't hesitate to drop me a PM.
As for your argument, I dont quite understand it, you say the commericial scene has ruined dance music but you don't think dance is dead tho, just gone underground?
Lately Ive heard some of the best tunes in years.. but im mainly into Techno and Hard Trance ........ I think alot of the stuff thats getting released is far better.. The scene at the moment is changing i think,, alot of the big clubs are charging too much and i think alot of people know they can have good nights out at some ot the smaller ones........ I dont think its gonna die,, anyway its just all begun to kick off in places like Aus & NZ big time,, i would say on worldwide scale its getting bigger
DJ Scott Project.. would go just 4 him.,. hes f***** brill! One of me favs... but yeah its a good line up, not too sure about scooter live tho :eek2:
haha, dont worry, ill be nowhere near the scooter performance...self respect and all that. its the Love & Nukleuz areans for me
Also we are in a period of financial uncertainty, people arent as lavish with they're money anymore, they dont know whether they will have a job in a months time.
As for the big DJ's going to the US, its obvious, its for the money, the events there are bigger and charge more and therefore can give the DJ's more.
However the latest round in the battle between the US government and the 'raves' is being won by the government. They have brought in a law which makes the organisers of raves liable if people at that rave use drugs. Its suposed to stop the spread of pills in the US which is by far the worlds largest growing market for them.
the techno scene will die soon if people like picotto & fergie don`t leave it alone...they should stick to their trance.
i read a tracklisting of fergies and he was palying stuff by ben sims, deetron & dj rush to name a few, in a couple of weeks he will be playing something else..... i hate the way these dj`s jump on the band wagon of what ever is popular.
they are not techno heads as they wouldnt play trance aswell if they were.
and none of them can dj, judge jules fergie tiesto all them can`t dj for shit, they are about as technical as me nan with a pair of beltdrives!!!!
what the fuck are you talkin about?? fergie is a brilliant dj, as is jules. tiesto is fair. i have seen all these guys. fergie loads, he is a legend. picotto and fergie dont play trance
he gets cheesier by the second, what i am on about is in a few months fergie wont be playing techno it will be something else.
the way it is going we will have cybers and beer boys in all our techno clubs ruining the night.
techno clubs are for people who apreciate intelligent electronic music. not shitty trance, and techno because it is popular.
do you go to shine at all mate? i go there now and again as most of my family are in ireland and i am over there regulary.
fergie does mix and match a bit. especially if u listen to him on radio1 as opposed to his live sets. its a complete different ballgame mate. personally i prefer his live sets cus i more or less swear by hardhouse. my mate is well into techno so he is lovin this newest venture of mr fergusons. maybe it is just a passing fad, who knows, enjoy it/hate it while it lasts.
nah mate. aint been to shine yet however my mate is goin to queens this yr and has got a flat. i dont live in belfast u c but i will b visitn him sumtimes so i will be goin then. probably network as well..u been there? i go 'the met' mostly in armagh, even though i live in enniskillne. its the nearest place 2 me that i can hear quality music. the resident chris davis is an absolute legend.
did you know the original is actually flash by green velvet a TECHNO tune?
You're having a laugh! The locals get (got (ultimately their downfall)) treated like shit. The bouncers used to walk down the queue and pick out random groups saying their clothes we'rent suitably fashionable, whilst a coach load from, say nottingham, would go straight to the front of the queue. Everyone gets pissed off and goes to better clubs in the city. It just turned into a tourist attaction which has now lost it's appeal.
IMO Garlands is the best club in town, even if a bit burnt!
what the fuck r u doin in the clubbing message board if u dont have ANYTHING good to say about any type of dance music :eek2:
ive seen it in e-bay goin for around £30. i hear ull b able to get it of the shelves soon for a fiver so ill hold out.
didnt think sum1 who swears by techno wud have dj elite
same as i would have done if you wanted to buy a copy.
what??
I've been going to Feel for 4 years or so now and when I first started it was absolutely brilliant, (still is the best club around in my eyes) but each year has got slightly worse. The people haven't been as friendly, not as much into there music and so on.
Too many cheesy mixes are around like the ministry of sound cd's etc. It's meant that more people have started liking dance and so there's less difference between the underground world and the commercial world.
Underground has tried to counter this but in my opinion most of the stuff that is around these days is s**t. It's a long time since I actually heard a tune I really liked.
I think the worst thing was when hard house hit the scene. Along with cyber kids and glow sticks! Argh!!!!!!:mad: