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'Rape' victim so fat she should be glad of the attention
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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=49517&in_page_id=34
A barrister provoked outrage yesterday by claiming that the victim of an alleged gang rape was so fat she would have been 'glad of the attention'.
Sheilagh Davies, defending one of three boys accused of raping two girls, said the 16-year-old girl had 'slimmed down a lot' since the alleged attack.
She told Inner London Crown Court: 'She was 12st 6lb – not quite the swan she may turn into. She may well have been glad of the attention.
A barrister provoked outrage yesterday by claiming that the victim of an alleged gang rape was so fat she would have been 'glad of the attention'.
Sheilagh Davies, defending one of three boys accused of raping two girls, said the 16-year-old girl had 'slimmed down a lot' since the alleged attack.
She told Inner London Crown Court: 'She was 12st 6lb – not quite the swan she may turn into. She may well have been glad of the attention.
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I doubt very much the barrister in question believes all of the larger ladies out there should be lining up to get raped.
er would you say something like that witohut meaning it, IN COURT
I can't believe a woman would say that. But then I'm a crazy feminazi so what do I know? But honestly, I don't think there is any excuse to make statements like that in court. If the rapists get off (heaven forbid) it sets a very dangerous precedent indeed.
Glad you've become judge and jury by reading a quote...
If they "get off" then surely they've been judged as to having not committed rape, and are innocent?
A thoroughly disgraceful way for a professional in any capacity to behave, she should be ashamed and disciplinary action should be taken.
That is a point. And yes that would be certainly a permissable defence, however objectionable.
Exactly how i viewed it too, but again newspaper reports could mean anything really!
I have no idea if these girls were raped or if they had consensual sex, basically it's irrelevant to the point here. The issue is that an officer of the court/law implying that women who are overweight (and slaves to fashion if her comments re: provactive dressing are to be taken into account) trends are somehow deserving of rape or sexual assault is outrageous. She should be ashamed of herself.
Being overweight is an adequate excuse to defend a rapist. Well, I never...
I don't think that is the issue.
My personal opinion is that it was said in the context that Flashman Ghost stated, and during the good old newspaper publication process it was deemed to be a more exciting story if it was left a little vague to allow people to jump to the conclusion that she's saying "Rapes okay, as long as it's on a fatty".
From the defendents point of view can you see them, even being complete and utter idiots thinking that should they say "She was fat so i knew she'd be begging to be raped" would wash in court? It would be a straight forward admission of guilt.
yes it is a barristers job but she should NEVER say anything like that nobody should ever say somebody should be glad of the attention of rape its discusting. I wonder how the barrister would of taken it if it was her daughter who had been raped and somebody said that
Yeah when taking the title of this thread as a basis for the context it was said in.
Though how you can honestly believe anybody would be trying to build a defence from that is crazy.
Try reading it as Flashman stated and form an opinion, i think it would be more valid to the reality of what was said
I understand that she was acting as defence but by saying what she said I dont think she showed an ounce of decency and should be ashamed. I did read the entire article you know and not just the title of this thread.
It may be presumptious, but that's a different case. It also may have come out during other parts of the case...
sorry but since when is 'she's fat and needed some cock' a legit legal argument?
dude ought to be disbared
Err..yeah. Not quite how it works though :yeees:
I think it's been taken out of context. It's a lawyers job to put across all possibilities and one of those possibilities is that the girl consented and did 'enjoy the attention'. Maybe her clients have told her exactly that, the girl was fat and did consent. Since we only have a 'story' to go on and don't actually know all the facts then i don't think we can really comment fairly.
SG, in reply to your comment, i dont think lawyers are the scum of the earth. I work very closely with lawyers in my job and have to say that the ones i work with are some of the nicest people you could meet. They're just normal people doing a job. It's against the rules to defend someone pleading not guilty if they've admitted they're guilty so any lawyer defending his client is doing so on the basis that they believe their they are innocent.
ETA: I am not naive, i realise that SOME lawyers probably are scum and don't necessarily play by the rules, i'm just pointing out that they're just human and don't deserve to all be given a label just because of their job.
please. You're making a broad statement about a whole group of people based on a select few. Lawyers have gotten out of control in many countries, that doesn't mean they're all scum, nor does it mean they don't serve a vital purpose.
...so every public defender ever? It's part of the legal system that defendants get legal aid even if they're clearly guilty, it's meant as a way to prevent tyranny. Defense attorneys play a vital part of the legal system by filling that role.
Defending an accused rapist who's clearly guilty is never an easy thing to do, but they deserve representation just like everyone else.
innocent untill proven guilty; otherwise, why bother having due process?