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Train company to sue suicidal man for £24,000
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Serco, you're scum.
The CPS officer who approved this: you're scum too. You should be sacked immediately for failure to do your job properly. On what planet is this in the public interest?
The officers who approved this should be publicly named and shamed, sacked and then forced to pay back the entire cost of the prosecution, plus interest. And then should be bankrupted, just to teach them some fucking compassion.
This has made me so mad.
Serco, you're scum.
The CPS officer who approved this: you're scum too. You should be sacked immediately for failure to do your job properly. On what planet is this in the public interest?
The officers who approved this should be publicly named and shamed, sacked and then forced to pay back the entire cost of the prosecution, plus interest. And then should be bankrupted, just to teach them some fucking compassion.
This has made me so mad.
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Not really sure the Independants use of a photo of Ufton Nervet was necessary really....
The thing that gets me is that if he'd thrown bricks at the trains instead, or tagged them, he'd get a £50 fine and 2 hours community service.
If it's felt that there's a need to make him aware of the consequence of his actions, then I could possibly go along with the fixed penalty for trespass, possibly, but this is utterly ridiculous and sets a very dangerous precedent.
Because it's not the guy's fault he is suicidal...
I disagree but that's a whole different issue, some people are stronger than others.
On this matter though it does tend to be a little harsh. Yes he was selfish in his actions, but two wrongs don't make a right. How is this now going to help this man sort out his problems? It's more stress that he doesn't need and will probably make him attempt suicide again. He more than likely doesn't even have £24,000 either. It's completely ridiculous, like railway companies don't earn enough money already.
I know it's OT- but can i ask what you mean by 'some people are stronger than others'? I just want to hear your opinion
No of course not, he wouldn't have thought, this is going to cause the rail company to lose thousands of pounds, i'm sure that was the last thing on his mind.
What I mean is that some people deal with things better than others. For example, someone could be sexually abused all their life, be in debt, whatever you can think of, but they come out the other side, get the help they need and make a success of their life. They won't be beaten. Whereas others just give up. There is help out there for everyone and support but some people won't take it or help themselves. I do feel for people that think there is no other option but suicide and it must be a horrible position to be in but they can turn things around.
Maybe someone that is abused by those who are meant to look after them may not be at fault for how they may feel but those where it is self inflicted it is I think.
Feel free to tell me your opinion on the matter
From my point of view.. because of the nature of depression, and the negative thoughts that come with it, sometimes it's very difficult to see past those thoughts, they consume your thinking. In a lot of cases, the illness takes over, and there is not massive amount anyone can do to help themselves, until they gain a bit of insight/clearer thinking.
I can understand that. I suppose it's hard to put yourself into that kind of position, it's a difficult one to imagine but I do feel for such people as either way whether their fault or not it's not a nice feeling to have.
and then there is the patten of 'everyone is better off without me, i just can't cope, and i don't want to put my family/friends through this' so... i can see how it is selfish, but not from the suicidal person's point of view, they feel there is little/no choice.
Wrong.
There isn't help for everyone. Not anyone can find the strength to find help by themselves. People in that stage often genuinely believe that suicide is better, that everyone will be better off without them, that it can't be selfish because everyone will be pleased that they're dead.
I hope they enjoy their £5 per week, 'cause that's all they'll get.
Surely you have just contradicted yourself?
Firstly saying there isn't help for everyone and then saying that there is help it's just finding the strength to find it. Therefore as I said, there is help for everyone out there
If you can do that then you're probably not is desperate need of it, getting help from the system is basically entirely dependent on someone doing it for you. For the lucky ones that's a friend or family member, for the slightly less lucky ones its the authorities when an attempted suicide gets noticed, and for the rest it never happens.
Have you seen NHS waiting lists for mental health treatment? When I first went to the NHS for mental health treatment I was told it could be 18 months. I was bumped to the top of the queue as my condition was very bad- all thanks to a one-in-a-million pushy consultant who rang around every trust in the north east to find me a spot- but it was still seven months from GP referral to starting treatment.
Secondly, even to get on the waiting lists you need support and encouragement. I had my girlfriend (now wife) to hold my hand when times got bad, to drag me to the GP in the first place, and I was very lucky. I sometimes tried my hardest to push her away, she needed someone good instead of me. We'd not been going out long and a lot of people wouldn't have taken me on. Not everyone has that.
You have no idea how hard it is to go to a doctor and say "I slice my arms open ten times a day and I want to die". A lot of people can't do it without support and the nature of depression is that you isolate yourself from all avenues of support. It takes a lot of stubbornness to support someone with severe depression.
No, I haven't. It's people like you, Scary Monster and skakitty that make me more aware of the issues surrounding it and put it into perspective, they just happen to be a little bit more polite about it.
I haven't argued anything. I was asked for an opinion which I shared and then asked for that person's opinion which was then discussed. Why do you always have to jump down someone's throat when their opinion is different to yours? People think differently and have opposing opinions, expressing those opinions is how you learn from others.
Yes I stated my opinion, and yes you may disagree but without doing so I wouldn't have heard what skakitty and Scary Monster had to say on the matter which has made me understand a little more about depression and seen the other side of the coin. I just don't think there is any need to be rude, especially when what you said was useful to hear especially as you've experienced it first hand.
Yes, it is a touchy subject.
Suicidal people aren't selfish as a whole, but there are definitely selfish ways to go about it.
Going back to the train company, that's hugely selfish.
I guess that could be part of the argument here....
was it going to be a genuine attempt, or was it just "a cry for help"/attention seeking?
I doubt it can be proved either way....
therefore it should be treated as a genuine attempt and they should lay off the guy!!!
Not like he did it pissed up on a night out for a laugh....that'd be a different story.....!
C-A x
I have no idea if you know this, but up until the 1960s, suicide was illegal. However, I believe they were sent to hospital instead of prison.
As for the original post - I think that's disgusting. Wonder what would the company would say/do if one of them or their family was that man?
You're right suicide was illegal at one point, the stupid thing being that anyone that attempted to commit suicide, their punishment was to be hung, I am pretty sure they weren't sent to hospital or prison.
I thought it was still illegal? Or is that just assisted suicide?
C-A x