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So, I tried the dreaded smack!
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And fucking lovely it was. I wasn't sick. Didn't plan on it, ended up with some dodgy crack head and bought a tenner bag. Went home and chased the tiniest little bit ever, I mean literally a crumb and it felt so nice, and I'm well used to pethidine, morphine, dhc so I am accustomed to opiates.
Carried on until I was in oblivion, absolute bliss, I'd had a couple of valiums earlier too and had mates round me too so all was safe. I was nodding for about four hours.
It must have been good gear I reckon too, rock, smelt perfumey, almost insence.
Never EVER thought I'd do it. But I enjoyed it and would do it again.
Having done every other drug out there recreationally, ie pills, speed, acid, shrooms,coke, crack and countless pharmaceuticals. I wouldn't say it was the most enjoyable and you get nothing from it but its a lovely feeling, like a kiss from god. Is just not a drug you learn from and this definately a drug to be treated with respect.
I will do it again, but its all about respect and not letting it get on top of you. Plus I don't have easy access to dealers really round here.
It was an experience to be had in my opinion. Blows any other opiate even IV Morphine clean out the water, less side effects too.
The only damage that comes from the drug is the addiction and effects of pinning up etc which I'd NEVER EVER do, and thats a cert because thats a one way ticket to hell and back if your lucky.
I reckon its even possible to get the odd tenner bag to share every now and again with no harm done. Thought I'd share.
Any thoughts, concerns etc?
Carried on until I was in oblivion, absolute bliss, I'd had a couple of valiums earlier too and had mates round me too so all was safe. I was nodding for about four hours.
It must have been good gear I reckon too, rock, smelt perfumey, almost insence.
Never EVER thought I'd do it. But I enjoyed it and would do it again.
Having done every other drug out there recreationally, ie pills, speed, acid, shrooms,coke, crack and countless pharmaceuticals. I wouldn't say it was the most enjoyable and you get nothing from it but its a lovely feeling, like a kiss from god. Is just not a drug you learn from and this definately a drug to be treated with respect.
I will do it again, but its all about respect and not letting it get on top of you. Plus I don't have easy access to dealers really round here.
It was an experience to be had in my opinion. Blows any other opiate even IV Morphine clean out the water, less side effects too.
The only damage that comes from the drug is the addiction and effects of pinning up etc which I'd NEVER EVER do, and thats a cert because thats a one way ticket to hell and back if your lucky.
I reckon its even possible to get the odd tenner bag to share every now and again with no harm done. Thought I'd share.
Any thoughts, concerns etc?
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Then a year down the line theyre a wasted junkie just like any other.
The vast majority of heroin addicts never were stupid people, they just should never have tried the damn stuff because they got in too deep and thought they were stronger than the drug.
If I were you, id just remember how much you bloody loved it, and how much every other junkie loved it too, and also remember that youre no better and no stronger than anyone else when it comes to feeding your own pleasure centre.
Youve tried it, now leave it alone and dont touch it again.
Look, youre already planning on more!
But there are a lot of smackheads out there living a normal life, I know loads who you'd never even dream did it.
Depends on person to person. I've battled with addiction to opiates and diazepam before and know the warning signs. Even if I were to do it, it would be irregular because it's not really people in my circle.
And by respect I mean savouring the experience, not taking it for granted as it is not something to be enjoyed on a regular basis.
Thats just bollocks. Its just as bad to chase the dragon as it is to inject. Its like some weird kind of false snobbery amongst drug users that IDUs are worse than anyone, but really its no different. It IS just another way of doing it, which I wouldnt recommend, but its not because other ways of taking drugs are OK.
Be very very careful. Establish your boundaries and stick to them.
You've had addiction problems before, yet you still want to use heroin?
I doubt much any of us will say will make a blind bit of difference, but junk has hooked people with stronger wills than you before and will do in the future. The fact that you really enjoyed it should be a very good reason for not doing it again.
Maybe posting about your experience is a cry for help? I mean you sound proud of it! I think deep down you know its wrong, an a stoop to a lower level.
This drug always gets people once they start doing it. Stop while you can mate.
I know a few people who will smoke it from time to time, They're not addicts though.
I'm not proud, just I don't know the heroin and crack game at all.
I've spoke to a few people as well and they all said, trust, do not even go down that road. And these people have seen it all for real. It's just not worth it, I've got a life to live and wouldn't want to risk wasting it on some gear from some shady twat.
Thanks. :thumb:
Injecting it is probably cleaner..
It may be a tiny bit cleaner but then consider this. These people are not taught how to use syringes properly.
Did you know that if even the tiniest air bubble gets into that syringe while you draw the substance up and you inject the bubble you will die?
The air bubble would pass through the bloodstream and into your heart where it would pop under the pressure and kill you.
I can extend into another way that air bubbles can get into the bloodstream but it would make every man on this forum afraid.
At least with smoking there isn't a chance of that happening. It is still a major evil to even touch the smack. A mate of mine was addicted to it for 6 years and it took losing his son and wife through leaving to get him into Rehab.
He's still on Methadone now, 2 years on. He has his wife and son back now and will not risk losing them again. He nearly lost everything to smack. He says it rips the soul right out of you to the point where your next hit becomes more important than anything else, including family.
Thats actually bollocks about the air embolism. It is not a good idea to put air into the bloodstream obviously, but it would take a rather large air bubble to kill you. I think they said about 10ml on my nursing course.
Injecting is certainly not cleaner. The risks from injecting are massive. From blood borne viruses like HIV, Hep B & C to infections like cellulitis, endocardiatis, ulcers, deep vein thrombosis etc. It's also far easier to OD.
It's not a simple as that.
"A long journey starts with a single step."
It's not likely you'll get properly addicted after your first try but you like its effects. Then you buy it again because you liked its effects. You like it again and then you want more. This is the beginning of true addiction.
It isn't like with pills or speed where it can take days and sometimes even weeks of non stop dropping or snorting/bombing before you become truly addicted to it.
Most people I speak to who know about it say that it takes an average of 3 times before you're addicted to smack.
its weird .. within my group all of us do drugs. some more than often. and some of us you wouldnt even guess but they are the worst ones. but whenever i say would you try smack every one goes mental all like 'na no way im not some fucking dirty smackhed' .. and i dont know i think its a bit hypocritical seeing as they spend over 200 quid of the money from sovereign on 4 g's which promtly go straight up their nose using a rolled up peice of paper cos they have run out of money ..
Is it?
I took ecstasy and liked it's effects, so I then bought it again and over the last 10 years have done them on many occasions but that doesn't mean I'm addicted to ecstasy.
I take crack once in blue moon, and I like it's effects, but my usage hasn't spirralled out of control. What's all that about then?
I've heard that it takes a fair old while to devolp a physical dependance to opiates. I don't pretend to be an expert on addictions so I could be wrong, but I think this 'one hit and your hooked' is bollocks to be honest.
Don't confuse the 'want' to try something again because it was enjoyable, with an addiction or a dependacy.
This is Blagsta's field, I'd be intrested to hear what he says about it.