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I am not spoilt :grump:.
I know! I do feel lucky to have been to the US though. My yearly holiday usually consisted of a week in Devon, and that was because we got free train travel down and the flat for free through dads work. Til the flats got sold off I didn't even have a holiday last summer! Went to america because dad got some money back from some life insurance and we got half price flights due to being delayed 24 hours on the way home last time with virgin. :thumb:
GCSE's? Wasn't that 2/3 years ago? I've not been on holiday with my parents since I was 14 and that was 7 years ago
I've only been abroad twice, both to Spain. Can't remember the first time though. I always wanted to go to America but my parents could never afford it and would never get a trip there as a "treat"
All of my holidays were in Wales when I was younger or random places in England. BUTLINS ALL THE WAY
I love Butlins. We used to go there all the time. Cornwall and Aberdovey all the way. It's not like I've been to most of those places more than once. I only went to France for school trips, Belgium was a two day trip, Spain was a college trip (which I paid half of), Peru again college trip (which I paid 1/5 of), Kenya and Tanzania I've only been to because of my dad - I never would have a chance to go there otherwise, and I only get to because my dad can afford it. He's worked hard to get where he is now, and if he lived here he would never be where he is so he treats us to trips out there because we just don't see him EVER.
I dunno why I'm trying to justify myself...
Republic of Ireland (Twice, have friends out there)
Spain/Ibiza
Brusells
France
And that its for now. But once I've gone travelling this year I can add:
Porugal
Mainland Spain
Holland
and maybe Luxemborgh
to the list as well.
went to the one in wales when i was 5, it was horrible
Don't then
You have been spoilt though, just accept it. Theres nothing wrong with being spoilt (if you don't expect things all the time off your parents). I'm jealous you've been to all those places! This is why I want to go travelling so much because I've seen nothing of the world. You are very very lucky
I had loads of school trips/college trips I could have gone to but my parents could never afford those either. They were always hundreds of pounds. My parents just didn't have that sort of money and there was no chance of it happening when my parents split up Even if I paid half, they wouldn't be able to afford it. It was very disheartening though. I always felt really left out
But still, I've got the rest of my life to see places
I can't "just accept it" because I HAVEN'T been spoilt. I've been lucky in that my parents USED to be able to afford to take me on holiday but I don't see how that makes me in any way spoilt.
The fact that my dad pays for me to go to Africa every so often is nothing to do with being spoilt, it's because my dad actually wants us to see him and my sister. I see my dad 3 times a year, maybe 4 if I'm lucky. And unlike most people, it's not a case of jumping on a train. It's a £700+ round trip at least, so I don't think the fact that my dad pays for me to go out there is in the least bit spoilt . He can afford it, because he's worked hard to get to his position. And it's not like we spend the entire time out there on safari and on the beach, half the time I spend sitting in his flat, or out on his balcony having a cigarette. If we did spend the whole time in 5* hotels, I'd say youhad a point, but...argh no.
France
Holland
Denmark
Germany
Poland
Austria
Sweden
Greece
Spain
Nowt else special.
And you say spoilt like it's an awful thing. Having the opportunity to go lots of places is fantastic, and I think so long as the person is grateful for that then fair enough. And if circumstances allow for such opportunities to travel, why shouldn't a person not take that opportunity? If a parent or a relative lived/worked abroad and offered to pay for me to go over I wouldn't say no, I can't imagine many people would. Especially if you didn't see that person very often.
Did you not read what I said? I said "have been" spoilt, I didn't say you were spoilt.
I'm sorry but having a trip to America as a treat is being "spoilt" as is your parents paying for all those school trips. I never had that opportunity as my parents could never afford it. If you don't think your parents taking you to America or paying for your school trips (even though you have said you paid for "1/2" and "1/5" once) is being spoilt and I dread to think what you think being spoilt means tbh.
You don't have to justify yourself to me anyway Franki. I believe that anyone who has been abroad lots as a kid has been spoilt. Nothing you say is going to change my mind. Theres nothing wrong with being spoilt every now and again so stop getting so defensive. I'd love to have had gone the places you have.
Unfortunately though, my parents couldn't afford it. I'm sure if they could, I would have gone other places too.
I just don't think that generosity on behalf of parents necessarily means that kids are spoilt. But thats me.
Why shouldn't we get a holiday for working our butts off and getting good exam results? It was a one off and it has never happened before or after. All our other holidays have been cheap, and the only other time I've been abroad on a proper holiday with my mother has been when we went to Turkey for a week.
I know people that go on holiday twice a year and never pay for any of it. THAT is spoilt. My baby sister gets everything she wants whenever she wants it. THAT is spoilt. The fact that my parents were able to take me on a plane a couple of times is NOT being spoilt. I didn't go abroad LOTS as a kid. I didn't go abroad AT ALL as a kid, I didn't go on a plane til my dad moved to Africa, and I didn't go abroad with my mum til I was 14.
I'm getting defensive because imo being spoilt IS a bad thing. There's a difference between being spoilt and being lucky enough to have the opportunity to do things. Much as everyone is gonna be like "omgosh they're ganging up with each other cause they're together", Rich is right. I'd be spoilt if I didn't appreciate what I get, but I do. I know that I'm lucky that my dad earns a lot of money and can afford to bring me over to see him every year or so, and I don't ever abuse that. I know I was lucky to have my parents pay for my trips. But they knew it would be an amazing experience and didn't want me to miss out on it because I couldn't earn £800 in 6 months to pay for it. Especially since I quit my job half way through it.
ARGH rant over.
Of course I would and I'm sure my parents would have taken me to more places and paid for school trips if they could have afforded it. If they did though, I'd assume that I'd still feel spoilt. I would have thought that my parents were really treating me. I remember when I went to Spain with my Dad and two brothers when I was 14 years old and I felt really spoilt. It felt like a real treat.
Whenever my parents spend money on me, I feel spoilt. Its just the way I've been brought up.
France,
Spain,
Hull.
Those who have been masses abroad are bloody lucky cunts. He says - not at all jealous at all....
Oh, and I didn't say anywhere that parents wern't entitled to treat their children. Parents doing that for their children is a nice thing but it is a treat in my opinion, when you get treats, you are being spoilt. I don't care what you say. I always feel spoilt when my parents do anything for me. Like I said, its the way I've been brought up.
Never in this thread though, have I said, that parents treating their children to holidays is a bad thing. I'm sure that if I have children, I will take them places abroad provided I have the money.
3. to impair, damage, or harm the character or nature of (someone) by unwise treatment, excessive indulgence, etc.: to spoil a child by pampering him.
which implies bad. Hence my being offended.
And my mum doesn't want my dad to pay for everything, even though he will willingly. I think she's a bit bitter.
Wales
Scotland
France
Germany
Belgium
Spain
Portugal
Italy
Turkey
Cyprus
Malta
Sicily
Corfu
Sardinia
Monaco & Monte Carlo
Majorca
Off to Bulgaria, Netherlands and Czech Republic this year.
My parents took me on about 6 foreign holidays total, and worked their fingers to the bone to do so. As for the rest of the fantastic places I have worked in, holidayed in and travelled through it was all as a result of my own intitative and working like an ox to afford it. I'll be damned if anyone's going to make me feel bad about it, them were the days
To me, there is two types of spoilt - the bratty spoilt sort and the spoilt every now and again sort.
I fall into the spoilt every now and again sort and in my opinion, you do too. Your parents treat you to things every now and again, as do mine. Its not a bad thing. To ME though, receiving gifts and having money spent on me is being spoilt.
Rich - Its just the way I've been brought up. Whenever I receive something off my parents, I feel really spoilt. I've worked stupid hours since I was 15 years old so whenever my Dad buys me something, I just think of the amount of hours he's worked to buy me that gift. I can't help but think like that. I am really really grateful for anything my parents do for me though.
When I was younger, when were treated, we knew it was a treat. I always felt spoilt. I'm not quite sure why. Like I keep saying, its just the way I've been brought up.
You are entitled to a different opinion
sorry
Ireland
Scotland
Wales
France
Italy
& Vatican City
Belguim
Monaco
I really want to visit Germany, but I haven't yet.
Scotland
Spain
Holland
Bulgaria.
France
Spain
Tenerife
Lanzarote
USA
Monaco
Barcelona
Italy
Vatican City
Egypt
Prague
...would like to add Cuba and Mexico to the list :yes:
France
UK (specifically England)
Denmark
Sweden (just for a few hours)
Italy
...and that's about it.