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This is chap many posters defended in the Home, Law and Money forum because he was looking for a job that would enable him to continue to recieve Income Support and DLA for mental illness.. Something he felt entiltled to because 'it's fair compensation which the tax paying public should meet for being so cruel to me in the street'.
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TheSovereign please stop posting such unhelpful crap.
Hopefully, you won't find anybody here actaully advising anybody else to actually take drugs, but at the same time I was kind of hoping we'd avoid comments telling him specifically not to, especially from those who don't have any personal experience with drugs themselves.
I think the best thing we can do is provide the information on certain drugs, list the certain risks and effects (both positive and negative) and let the poster decide for themselves.
The one drug I have considered is weed, BUT only if I had diabetes and getting Glaucoma and it was the only thing that could save my eyesight.
I can't stand the smell of weed, but if it's a choice between smelling bad, and having to deal with some dodgey people vs going blind I think I know which I'd pick.
Please don't read into TheSovereign's opinions too much. Not everybody who takes drug is a shady character.
LOL .. OK what I kinda meant was like I'd have to do a bit more then going to Holland & Barret to get the stuff ..
do you mean to score?
watch out for con's, there's so many ppl who will happily sell you anti-psychotics for E or candle wax for Crack.
it's not an exageration. an exageration would be to describe how omg everyone was high and loving it and how everyone wanted to help these guys who were being singled out by authority (secuirty or paramedics) and how everyone rushed to help these guys. the reality is that no-one will help you if you get into a state. no-one will because they wont. they don't want anything to do with you. its these moments you realise who your friends really fucking are.
There are a plenty of people here that fall into that category, but I don't think you'll find any of them agreeing with some of the twaddle you've been posting.
The fact is the majority of people who take drugs do have a good time, with no or very little problem. Of course there are exceptions, and you'll never find us stating that drugs are completely safe, but what you're saying here is just rubbish.
That's not down to drugs though, that's down to the fact you've got shite mates.
From a harm minimisation point of view, which is what informs the drugs content on the site, a balanced and evidenced view is the most informative for people to make up their own minds.
If this is the only situation in which you could imagine using a drug, then this thread if you dont mind me saying is a bit of a waste of time.
DG, if you want to, then it couldn't hurt to try as long as you are careful.
though tbh i'd do something better than weed if i were you
Well those people are wrong, thats hardly a fault of MDMA.
And yes, we do understand (at least in large part) what most drugs will do to the body in the long term, you just have to research it.
i dont think weed would have a hugely powerful impact on you ( but please correct me if im wrong) so yeah go ahead and try that.
personally, to answer your question if you're missing out then id have to say yes. there ARE risks with taking drugs but ecstasy for example, is well overrated as a 'death drug', and it has given me some of the best experiences of my life. me and my mate were talking about it the other day and we were saying we find it frustrating that there's people we know who'd love it, but wont take it because of its reputation. im very glad i chose to take ecstasy.
however, i do think that drugs CAN BE a slippery slope. i started off at the beginning of the summer having the odd joint in the garage, and by the end of the summer i was doing pills and coke( and had turned down speed and acid as i didnt think i was ready). i think you just have to watch out what you take and how much of it you take. i take pills a couple of times a month now, and although they arent physically addictive i just watch how much i do em.
just be careful and try some soft drugs.
Ahh but then I don't think I particular want to go sky diving, but people I've come across who have done it once say that's kinda life changing experience
That doesnt really answer my point though does it. You started the thread suggesting you were thinking of trying 'drugs' and asking for advice, but it seems now that you have no intention what so ever. I'm just curious as to why you asked. I'm not trying to have a go at you or anything, I am all for people who dont use joining in debates in the Drugs section, and I dont really have a problem wasting time, I just cant figure out what your motive is.
I was perfectly happy with my life before I took drugs, but as Skive said, I was curious and I knew that personally I would regret it if I'd never tried them...this isn't the case for everyone. Drugs CAN ruin lives if you let them take control of you, however if you know how to use them and have a good time instead of abusing them then you should be ok...
I don't regret taking drugs at all, they have really opened my mind to things and I've had some of the greatest times in my life on them and I'm fine with them... however I did nearly have a problem a while back where I nearly lost control which could have potentially ruined my life, I won't go into detail but basically I pulled through and I feel I'm a better person because of it.
So basically it's up to you, drugs are fantastic in my opinion but be careful and remember that there ARE risks involved....one last thing...
Take time deciding whether this is the life for you because once you get involved with drugs it's very, very hard to get out.
Cannabis is probably one of the least harmful drugs there is. However, it can have detrimental effects on some people - it can precipitate psychosis and its use can exarcebate (or even trigger) anxiety and depression.
Taking drugs should not be a way of life.
You're right, it shouldn't. But unfortunately that is how it usually turns out, which isn't neccesarily a very bad thing as long as you're in control.
Yeah definately. There are plenty of people who can take 'em or leave 'em, save it for new years eve and big occasions.
Budda: I think DG wants to know if he's missing out or really not experiencing his life to the fullest by not trying any drugs. I don't see that anyone responding has posted anything to make it seem like drugs are a must do for some amazing reason so he remains unpersuaded...
why ask a load of ppl who dont know u, if you should do drugs?
if every1 said yes, would u go do it? or if every1 said no, would u steer clear?
drugs are a personal choice, askin a forum is a bit juvenile
er? excuse me? Why do non religious people go and ask religious people about their faith? Because we are interested in making the most of our experiences as a human and not missing out on something great by not knowing how great it was!
I find your response a bit jouvenile!
www.erowid.org
Personally, I say anyone who hasn't tried drugs like ecstacy or shrooms definately are missing out. These drugs have severe drawbacks though, I've developed a mental illness or sorts from my use of drugs, depends on the person, some people can take drugs and only do them the odd time. Others feel the need to take them as often as possible.
Though lets not get confused, very few drug users actually develop any serious debilitating addiction.
i don't believe in depression etc, but lots of ppl report bad comedowns and even err long term depression. someone said the weight of 'evidence' is against me. the evidence says that fleetin experiences with drugs transgress into long term impact on daily life. i don't believe that. but there are 100s of ppl in psychiatric wards who will tell you that cannabis (haha) fucked with their 'mental state'. moreover some say drugs like E are in their infancy with humans that there'll be hundreds of thousands of old ppl come 2050 with degenerative disease etc.
did anyone see the horizon a few years back with the guy with parkinsons who took E to aleviate his symptoms.. it was miraculous. he was chair bound then when he took e he was jumping on trampolines and dancing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/ecstasyagony.shtml
from the yr2000
I thought you had left?
as long as you make an informed choice
no one can tell you if you should or not