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What happens to people in the non governmental sector if they do a bad or no job? they get nothing, nil, nada, zero not only that they get nothing in future either as word get round that they aren't any good at what they do.
Do those in the government get paid whether they do a good or any job or not?
Why yes, yes they do. Why? because if you don't pay them you go to jail and if they do it badly they get even more resources.
Which set of people are going to be most accountable and willing to do a good job for the people they serve?
What stops people from making a business in any field? regulation, licencing h&S law and taxation (which big corporations wriggle out of but small ones can't) which is the primary way that large corporations keep competition out of their fields.
What stops a set of workers just telling the boss on monday morning that it's timeto sort out the cash? Government again!
Of course they don't. No one does, according to you. What's in it for the government?
That isn't all the government. That's just their sales section.
Whichever party you vote for, they always get in. And bear in mind that MP's are chosen by the existing system, and are about as likely to rock the boat or not already be bought and sold as something very unlikely indeed.
no matter who you vote for you always get the government
i watch far too much yes minister
Privatisation has never ever occured. The government still runs everything through statute law.
They already don't pay. Why does empowering a group of people with the ability to rob you change this one iota? It doesn't.
So now not only don't they pay, you have to pay their end of the wedge through lower wages, regulation and all the costs of government. If you just paid to charity direct you would have given more money to what you wanted to.
What's in it for all the government (i.e. almost all of it) that doesn't change with election?
Plus, overflowing? Hardly. What a load of toss.
From who's point of view?
From mine it looks like I can just not pay them and keep my own money to spend how I like. If they are doing a bad job their donors can stop the cheques overnight until they buck up or take their business elsewhere entirely any time they like.
How is this unaccountability?
Which is exactly what they get from NOT actually performing. In fact, if anyone in government does a crap job next quarter they can ask for more cash, more people to work under them and a bigger department.
It's not in the interest of anyone in government to actually provide any solutions because then they would be unemployed.
hmmm do you know of any charities that bomb children?
I'll give you a clue. It begins with I, ends in A and has an R in it somewhere.
That`s a funny way to spell Inland Revenue.
The IRA is a tiny government, or a wanna be government, not a charity. It seeks to be the controlling force within a given area, whether people want it to or not. Not only that but it only exists in order to combat a government that already exists. If that government vanished what would be the point of it?
There you are, you are free. Now, would you like gang of thugs "a" to come back or gang of thugs "b" to start ruling you?
What's that Sooty? You don't want either of them?
After having all your arguments knocked out cold, I am frankly surprised you tried to reframe the debate in such a cackhanded fashion.
If you abolish government (good luck with that by the way), you'd be left with a lot of organisations seeking sponsorship to promote their cause. Some would be beneficent and might provide healthcare, education and policing etc, others might promote other causes. There might be religious charities with agendas or there might be sectarian charities with agendas. You might find that there are charities with opposing viewpoints, maybe an animal rights "charity" and a pro-testing "charity". Do either one of these groups have a reputation for blowing things up?
:yes:
I was giving you A correct answer to your question
We already know that governments blow things up.
True.I tried and I failed
Not really. Or even at all. Charity - the act of giving.
Giving being voluntary. i.e. the total opposite of taxation.
Ok let's imagine for a moment that the government is out of the way. I agree it seems unlikely at the moment but given the vast expense and need it has to educate all it's citizens from birth I am guessing it could be forgotten soon enough.
Only those organisations that could get enough voluntary contributions could do anything. All the other organisation would be free to deal or not deal with any other organisation. So all the hospitals would be perfectly free to not treat any IRA member, any Conservative party member or whatever limit they would like to put on their own services.
There would be no public property either, don't forget.
So what? You can have all the agenda you like. Your ability to have an agenda ends where my ability to have my own starts. You want everyone to be catholic? Great. As you can no longer pick up a gun and use violence to make everyone join you, or even pander to your nonsense, best of luck.
Sure they do. Have governments stopped them? No. So why have one then!
It could be YOU. A charitable act isn`t beyond you, is it ? Why all the emphasis on organisations ? And "guilt" for that matter ?
Theres no such thing. A charty is using a noun form for a verb action. i.e. pretty dim.
Sorry I'll need more details from you before I hand my cash over. You got financial breakdowns, plans of how you help etc to show me?
What other charities are there I can compare yours too?
Is it possible to just donate direct?
No cash til I see some evidence.
How do you fill a bottomless pit?
Sorry but some of the cash I would give to people naturally is currently in Iraq shooting kids. Other parts of it are on Lord Irving's walls. Prezza is driving around on some of it. It's paid for Cherie's hairdo. It's being used to buy an ID card system so that even more of it can be collected and then be blown on yet more shite that I wouldn't voluntarily pay for.
Your having a laugh, right?
Government is the biggest killer in human history.
Why do you think SOOOO much charity would be needed ? Look in the mirror. Do YOU need charity ? How many people do YOU know that need charity ?
Do you provide charity/benevolence to people that you judge as needy because of your guilt ?