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I used to steal food all the time from school, as there was no way i could get caught.
Another time i stole one shoe, because i just bought a pair of shoes, then i lost one of them. wasnt going to pay £60 for a new pair!
I dont normally steal though!
Being skint and homeless is a pretty good excuse.
You ever been homeless?
Me too. Stealing is just wrong, to me.
The reason being is, you think the system owes you something and you need to justify stealing things. You are so low, seriously. Get yourself some morals, eh.
It is not society's fault that these people are on the streets. It is not society's fault that some of these people are hooked on drugs. That is why I never give money to homeless persons. I feat it may be going into the drug culture, into crime. I'm a believer in personal responsibility. Not the nonsense of "victim culture" that is advocated by the idea society, and not the individual, is to blame for the blight of the homeless.
And before anyone says anything, no, I don't believe it is right that in the country with the 4th largest economy in the world, there are people on the streets of our cities and towns. It is to the utter shame of Britain that this still happens.
No there isn't. My mate's got a CR fro stealing, something he had to do whilst homeless on a regualr basis just to survive.
I worked hard to buy my own car. Nobody gave it me, bought it for me or anything. I worked sometimes 7 days a week to earn enough to buy a nice car, an escort cabriolet, and its upkeep. After a year, and approaching xmas, my bf and I bought some new wheels that cost £600 for it. It was the only modification i did to it.
2 months later, some selfish, pathetic, waste of space SCUM, took it from me. They took wheels so they could sell them. They took my cd's. They even took my air freshners. what for? Drugs? Reebok classics? Burberry hat? Not satisfied with that
they vandalised my car so i could never have it back.
What sort of conscience do these people have?
Yet people that go into supermarkets and nick food because they're skint are different in that theres no malice, they know no harm will be done to anybody by Tesco losing £5.
People that steal a few cans or whatever do it out of greed, but still not out of pure pathetic, disgustingly jealous, selfishness.
But then again, its been said its ok to steal food if you were skint. What if whoever stole my car did it because they were so skint they couldnt feed their 9999 kids? Would that be ok?
Thieves steal because they have no respect for authority. They have no understanding of right and wrong. They have no self-respect, no dignity. They are people who do not understand personal responsibility, who feel everything should be provided for them and if they do not have it, it must imply some sort of "injustice". This is poisonous nonsense.
Too many exceptions to the rules these days.
So we don't punish people for commiting crimes? You'd like to see 'chav's hands cut off for stealing, what about other people that steal?
+ It may not be societys fault that there are people on the streets, but they're certainly societys responsibility.
It is because they do not have respect for authority, they have no respect for themselves. And the reasons for that are wide - the increasing fragmentation in society, rising divorce levels, the rising number of single mothers... and before anyone says it, I have nothing against single mums. I don't doubt they do a brilliant job in difficult circumstances. Regulars will know that I have dated one last year. But study after study has proved that children are best brought up in two-parent families, with a mother and a father. It has been the best way for thousands of years, and will remain so for thousands more years. Britain is paying the price for the social engineering that has been happening unchallenged for all too long. A good question. This suggests a wider problem. Courts do try and punish people, but they are blighted and undermined by numerous technicalities. The Early Release Scheme, for instance. It is a travesty of justice that murderers and rapists can be allowed out less than half way through their sentence. It undermines confidence in the legal system, and it means criminals are laughing at the law.
It is well-established that small crimes lead to larger crimes, study after study has concluded this. No, I cannot agree with that. People are on the streets partly because of their own decisions. Society does not owe them anything.
I never have stolen anything, never will.
You ever been deperate to eat, or to be warm?
You havn't got a clue have you.
I agree with Zella when she says that people shouldn't waste money on crap like drugs, fags and booze when they can't afford to buy the cheapest food out there.
I don't think stealing is something to be proud of at all.
And please note that I am speaking in a wider sense, not about the individual you mention.
I keeping with this homeless thing cos a mate of mine has a criminal record for shoplifting whilst on the streets. He had drug and familly problems, there was no shelter in Salisbury, no help what so ever infact. He had to steal to survive, I've noticed the people here talking about how it's so wrong are also the people who'd never consider giving change to the homeless.
What does it matter.
Most have drink, mental and famully problems. Are some more deserving of our help than others?
On reflection, I think my initial view that society does not owe them anything may have been too harsh. I think employers could make it easier for homeless people to find jobs, business can play its part. Business has been abdicating its social responsibilities for too long as well. We can all play a part to deal with this blight on Britain.
And don't think I feel nothing for the homeless. Having lived in the country my whole life, I must admit I have been somewhat sheltered from these realities. When I went into London last year, and saw people begging on the streets, or people trying to sleep on street corners, it broke my heart as I walked past. Walking through the Bayswater area in West London, when I saw people shivering in the cold, I cried. I felt helpless. If I could help people out of homelessness, believe me, I would. But I want to be certain they want my help first.
Buying the skins was a distraction. Most shoplifters do it. You don't walk into a shop, walk around all suspiciously, getting your shit and just walk out. You get your stuff, pretend you're looking for something that's not there, then go to the counter and buy the skins as if that was the mian thing you were looking for.
And what's this about "you wouldn't do it if you had morals" What a silly thing to say, I have plenty of morals than you. Unless you've ever shoplifted, felt the need to shoplift, been in a situation where you had to shoplift, being with people who shoplifted also, then you have no reason to say what it's all about.