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how many people are being driven to madness and the urge to kill and destroy because of what WE have done.
i have just read the report in the guardian ...i haven't read this thread but i'll bet ...
luke and others still believe we are doing something right ...something good here.
this is genocide.
bush and blair should be hung from a lampost.
erm not to kill this thread, but the average white straight germans life was stable under hitler, they had jobs and shops and trade and food on table - doesnt make it a good place
with thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands ....of dead children ...dead women ...destroyed hospitals and power stations ...water treatment plants anhialated ...and an estimated one and a half million dead children because of depleted uranium and sanctions which WE put in place depriving children of essential medicine ...what i wonder is your definition of war if this is peace.
At the end of the day, remember that the US "doesn't do body counts" :mad:
I cannot say anything about mrmeathcliff's comments about 600,000 executions since I haven't seen the link or the claim itself. All I can say is that I have consistently seen figures of between 100,000 and 300,000 people killed by Saddam's regime. Some people add the 500,000-700,000 people killed in the Iran-Iraq war to Saddam's total to bring it over the famous 'million people killed' claim.
But then it could be just as easy to add the 500,000 to 1m people killed by US-led UN sanctions to the Allies death count.
It is my belief that in view of the latest figures released today, the Allies have now killed at least a very similar number of people as Saddam has- and probably more.
when americas shawas chucked out ...we aremd saddam with anything and everything he wanted ...so he could destroy those who hated the great satan ...so most of that blood is on our hands as well.
Though remember, the bottom line for some is that if people are killed by a dictator who is an ally of the West, they are just collateral damage. But if the dictator then becomes an enemy of the West, his victims are suddenly mourned the world over and the killings portrayed as a horrible crime that must not be tolerated.
What's your point here?
That's what we are talking about
Get it?
100,000 dead in Iraq is the topic.......
You wanna start a discussion about China? G'wan, dazzle us with your insight into China, G'wan, g'wan, g'wan...........
Just start another thread please.
Did Saddam kill 1.6 million Iraqis?
We should be told.........
Who's in "my clan" and where did I take ny holidays?
We should be told
Spooky no :eek:
Are you well
Me thinks he doesnae wish to discuss how many Iraqi babies we blew to smithereens.........
What do you mean "we"..it's not as though the general public had any say in the matter.
Did 'we' stop them?
Did we heck!
How on earth were "we" supposed to stop them huh?
If 5% of the people who joined that March in Feb, had gone to the bases and dismantled them and disarmed the planes, we might well have stopped them.
:eek2:
Which quite by coincidence is the estimated number of dead......
If they had done that, they would have all been arrested. It would not have worked.
Not to mention that the army has bases all over the world. Causing havoc at one, would not halt a war.
I think we've really got to look at the real reasons for this illegal invasion of Iraq. Why?
Because 'we' are all children of this world.
It's one world PussyKatty and my brothers and sisters are being bombed to fucked and I don't like it one tiny bit.
Is that enough for you?
Think global...act local
Excuse me?
If people had been killed in this country taking action against an illegal war, it may well have forced the government to pull out.
Some people took action - but it needed to be more - 100 000 people determined to dismantle bases could do it.
What will you do next time?
I said excuse me because I didn't understand your point. What do you mean "is that enough for you?"
The government pretends that it is "our" government - and we should definitely push it when they start committing mass murder IN OUR NAME - 100 000 arrests would be a major victory for us..........
Dismantling the bases would have been superb.
What will you do next time?
I'm thinking ploughshares here