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Shooting burglars
BillieTheBot
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Shot burglar case sparks debate
Now, most people would probably agree that under this set of particular circumstances the homeowner was rightly in the clear. What pisses me off is that some right-wing tossers are yet again twisting things and demanding the right to murder someone for breaking and entering. Look at the lovely Express front page today:
The "At Last" being a clear reference to murderer Tony Martin, a man who carefully took aim and shot a child in the back as he was trying to escape.
The Daily Torygraph is not falling much behind either, also crying “at last” and mentioning that darling martyr of the right again, Tony Martin.
Typical of certain camps to try to hijack this ruling for their own purposes. What they are advocating basically is the death penalty for burglary, and the 'right' to be judge, jury and executioner on the spot. The fact is that the Martin case could not be more different from this one.
Wankers. :rolleyes:
Now, most people would probably agree that under this set of particular circumstances the homeowner was rightly in the clear. What pisses me off is that some right-wing tossers are yet again twisting things and demanding the right to murder someone for breaking and entering. Look at the lovely Express front page today:
The "At Last" being a clear reference to murderer Tony Martin, a man who carefully took aim and shot a child in the back as he was trying to escape.
The Daily Torygraph is not falling much behind either, also crying “at last” and mentioning that darling martyr of the right again, Tony Martin.
Typical of certain camps to try to hijack this ruling for their own purposes. What they are advocating basically is the death penalty for burglary, and the 'right' to be judge, jury and executioner on the spot. The fact is that the Martin case could not be more different from this one.
Wankers. :rolleyes:
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You have to despair at these people...
Do you want a cookie? Or did you miss the point? Incidentally, it's actually burglary, theft is when you steal from a person.
Your example is completely fine, you are allowed to use reasonable force.
What they're basically saying is that if you break into a house the owner has the right to kill you if he so desires.
It depends on the situation. You do understand the word reasonable I presume.
If the burgler has a knife then you can use more force than if they are un-armed, if you're fighting then you can do everything within your power to stop them.
It really is quite simple!
Sorry, really, what does the fact that they were burglars have to do with anything? It's obvious.
They felt that because he was being attacked in his own home he should get away, with what was basically, murder. Obviously he shouldn't, regardless of circumstance. If you're goingt o shoot someone, shoot them in the leg.
Tony Martin executed the burglar as he was trying to escape. It had nothing to do with protecting oneself or one's property. Martin was simply 'teaching them a lesson'.
Do you think Martin was right and should have not been prosecuted?
Yes I do want that, and I HAVE IT!!!!
Its already there!!
I can useREASONABLE FORCE to defend myself.
Do you want me to run through this for the 5th time?
*Decides to start taking bets*
Martin commited murder, why does the location make any difference?
Okay everyone... it's official: Luke believes in the death penalty for burglary.
Don't complain if people make comparisons between you and certain moustached dictators, if you are happy to entertain such barbaric views.
Is there to be no defined limit to the punishment.
A kid trespasses on my land to get his/her ball back and I can chain them in the basement for the rest of their life torturing them? They obviously deserve it, they wouldnt be there if they didnt trespass.
I'll do whatever I can to protect my home and family. And if that means killing someone breaking into my home then I'll take the consequences.
He shot a minor in the back. How can you possibly condone it? More to the point, someone died because of what Martin did, normally people are charged with a crime when that happens.
yeh he knew, but he was getting away from the house, martin decided to issue justice himself, of which us as citizens dont have that right, what happen to trial by judge and jury luke?
He was of course holding that gun illegally, but shall we over look that issue?
No, we have the state given right, this has got nothing to do with God.
What if the gun was legal? Would that have made things OK?
Presumably if a member of your family got into an argument in a pub with me and they insulted me (which is verbal assault and constitutes a crime), it would be okay for me to kill them? At the end of the day, they had no right to insult me. I'm the victim and if I choose to kill them for it they only 'had it coming' right?
Doesn't mean that Martin should ever get away with it.
Bong's never said that.
I'm sorry, I'm not following you.