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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm 24, and wth 2 years post grad experience as a paediatric nurse i'm on £20,294...topped up with unsocial pay too
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm 24, and wth 2 years post grad experience as a paediatric nurse i'm on £20,294...topped up with unsocial pay too

    That's pretty good. Why is it that nurses wages are often flagged up as being low?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    PussyKatty wrote:
    That's pretty good. Why is it that nurses wages are often flagged up as being low?

    They used to be, and people still can't get their head around the fact that they no longer are.

    Senior nurses will earn £35,000+.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    About £4K a year less the industry average for my qualifications/experience. When I'm fully qualifed (accountancy) no idea. At least £40K a year easily.
    Really? All the accountants I know were that optimistic when they were at Uni too! You either have to be really good as a self-employed accountant or spend years working your way up to be a partner of a firm before you get to see decent money like that so I've been told. Don't quote me on that though; it is just hearsay.

    My neighbour is an experienced accountant and he has a slot as a pub DJ 4 nights a week, which he claims makes him more money.

    Me - teacher - 27 grand and I earn every fucking last penny of it. It's one of those jobs where your wages rise quite quickly in the first few years and by the time you realise you hate your job, you've grown to like the money and dont want to start again on a grad training scheme earning 15 grand.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    PussyKatty wrote:
    That's pretty good. Why is it that nurses wages are often flagged up as being low?

    They are better than they used to be. I think it is a comparable thing with other graduate jobs. When i graduated i was on £17,000, whereas everyone i knew started in the £20,000+ bracket. I also think it has to do with how much we are expected to do for that wage, more so now when the nhs is overstretched. We're consantly under-staffed and are quite frankly sometimes working in precarious situations. Howver i am quite happy with my wage, it is a good mount to live on, although i live in Swansea where it is relatively, so i can imagine if you lived somewhere more expensive you might struggle :yes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yup, goign to uni and getting a degree does not quarentee you that £18k a year job, contrary to the promises made that it will.

    I am currently on £15,133 a year, although thats before tax and pnesion contributions so in reality its a fair bit less.

    i think it goes up a bit this year sometime, i am not certain.

    I dont wann do this job now really but finding something better and what i want to do will be tricky.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Doomsday wrote:
    yup, goign to uni and getting a degree does not quarentee you that £18k a year job, contrary to the promises made that it will.

    Very true...it took my boyfriend 2 1/2 years of looking after graduation to find a job related to his degree. Up until then he had been earning minimum wage, woking in a supemarket to make ends meet :yes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    £27k and some spare change.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm 20 (well, turn 20 on thursday) and earn £12k as the office manager of a small design & print firm. I'm pretty much self employed- me and my dad run the business together which = lots of stress, long hours, heavy workload and minimal pay! But he makes sure I take my wage every month. However when tax bills are due and we have other staff to pay, paying me is not a priority unfortunately. But hey we're expanding at the moment so hopefully in a couple of years I'll be on a higher wage :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    They used to be, and people still can't get their head around the fact that they no longer are.

    When I worked within the NHS it used to boil my blood when I heard nurses saying they were badly paid. Sure, if you're the lowest grade and don't have any ambition to move up the ladder then the pay is poor in comparison to those who can be bothered.

    I'm 23 (almost forgot there!), earn about £15,500 and don't have any formal qualifications. I work for HMRC. Mr Bumble is the main earner in our household.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am confused by this ridiculously high numbers.
    In which time-frame do you get paid.
    Do you mention your salary per month or per year?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    These are yearly salaries (except where otherwise stated) which is how salaries are usually discussed and referred to in the UK.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    StrubbleS wrote:
    Do you mention your salary per month or per year?

    Unfortunately I do not get £27k a month.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We only get paid for 12 months as well none of that european 13th and 14th month thing going on....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote:
    Unfortunately I do not get £27k a month.

    I did not read through the thread and must have missed your post.
    Well, when I got to know a girl from london she seemed to earn PRETTY much, even tho she said it wasn't that much. It's very different from here, because you seem to earn a lot more, but everythings more expensive as well, so I do not have a good grasp on uk salaries.

    Someone mentioned earning 17,5k, which is 1458 pound/month, without education. That's 1,5 times more I expect to start with when I finished studying after 10 semesters (minumum). :lol: bit confusing.

    Are those sums Brutto or Netto values? :chin:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    £13k a year in loans, grants, bursaries and scholarships.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm guessing your asking before or after tax.

    They are after tax as a very rough rule of thumb i would minus around 25% from each salary to be paid in tax and national insurance.

    Its a bit more complicated than that due to the different tax bands and the fact that you can get taxed on random thing such as having a parking space at work (depending on which part of the country you live in) etc so someone on £17.5K a year would take home around £1100 a month.

    Which if you were in London rough prices for living a month would be
    £400 for a room in a shared house (There is no way you could ever afford to own your own house earning that much)
    £150 for bills and council tax
    £100 to get to and from work

    SO that leaves you with about £450 a month for spending money but most people have student loans to repay so probably your down to about £300 after you've paid that or about £70 a week - which is a meal for 2 in a nice restaurant including wine and tip but not a taxi home again.

    I do belive however that it is significantly cheaper to live in other parts of the country though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think after uni, unless you're lucky enough to get one of those graduate placement schemes, or happen to work in a sector that takes on a lot of graduates, you're gonna be spending a while trying to make ends meet. If your parents live in a place where there are a lot of opportunities doing whatever it is you want to do, or they have a bit of money, and don't mind helping you out a bit, then it's not too bad. But otherwise, it's quite difficult to be going between poorly paid, short-term contracts, at the same time as having a whole host of new outgoings that come with moving to a new place, that have to be paid every month. The trick is finding a job that supports you, yet is flexible enough to allow you to take up any opportunities that might come up in your chosen career. And those sorts of jobs aren't exactly common, which is why everyone ends up doing things that aren't related to their degree.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm 25 and get £15,000 as a copywriter/designer type, which is pretty crappy for my age, sector and experience. However, I do enjoy my job, and have turned down higher paid offers at companies where I know I wouldn't have the same attitude about coming to work. Guess it depends what's important to you.

    I'm hoping to pull an Infinite though, and have my first novel out before I'm 30 :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    £13k a year in loans, grants, bursaries and scholarships.
    and again, you didn't work to earn these!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    They used to be, and people still can't get their head around the fact that they no longer are.

    Senior nurses will earn £35,000+.

    I have never had any complaints about my earnings, i think is more than reasonable for my age and experience, even moreso hearing on here what others my age receive. But the nurses earning £35,000 are few and far between. The ones that earn this are the specialist nurses whose jobs are few and far between, in my area at least...especially now with the NHS massive overspend :yeees: However the Ward Manager's/ Sister's/ Charge Nurse's, however they like to be known nowadays, earn up to about £30,000, which is nothing to be sniffed at!! :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and again, you didn't work to earn these!

    I know, I'm not defending it, I'd be much happier doing a 9-5 job than at uni, I've stated that before. But as the job market stands, you need a degree to be taken seriously in most jobs these days, just so the UK can say "'we're clever" but most degrees probably don't help people in their careers that much.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But as the job market stands, you need a degree to be taken seriously in most jobs these days, just so the UK can say "'we're clever" but most degrees probably don't help people in their careers that much.

    That's what they like you to think...:naughty: But once you start applying for jobs, unless they are specifically for graduates, you will find that they will value experience more than a degree. Unless te degree is a specific job requirement, you will find a person with experience, even if it is only a small amount, will normally get the job over the the person with the degree and no experience :yes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's what they like you to think...:naughty: But once you start applying for jobs, unless they are specifically for graduates, you will find that they will value experience more than a degree. Unless te degree is a specific job requirement, you will find a person with experience, even if it is only a small amount, will normally get the job over the the person with the degree and no experience :yes:

    I know, but a lot of jobs that don't *technically* require a degree ask for them now. Look at any professional career. I'd like to go into possibly actuarial work, and they ask for a 2:1. But, you only need A level grade maths, and the rest of it you learn as you go and through experience, where at higher levels you will take a business scenario and give advice to clients which is 75% experience I'd say - but I won't even get a placement without that bloody 2:1 degree in the bag, because so many people going into professional careers these days have degrees they can pick and choose.

    I got an A in A level Maths, and showed strength in statistics, probability and decision mathematics which is precisely the stuff actuaries use. Whereas doing a degree, I'll be doing stupidly high level mechanics stuff, maybe even string theory, which I'll only ever touch if I decide to do research / lecturing.

    Surplus to requirements is a good thing, I guess, but I can't help feeling like in a way I'm wasting time that would be better spent getting good solid real experience. Although my family want me to get a degree because me and my brother are the only ones out of about 50 cousins who got to uni (like it's some holy grail), if I could start the job today with training without the degree I would, because I don't think it's going to help me day to day.

    This is the kind of thing I am doing, in my first year in my first module, which I will likely never ever touch:
    (see attachment)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think after uni, unless you're lucky enough to get one of those graduate placement schemes, or happen to work in a sector that takes on a lot of graduates, you're gonna be spending a while trying to make ends meet.

    :yes:

    Like most people, straight after graduatrion I was a temp doing data entry, and then I moved on to temping for Accenture.

    This office is full of people like me, all law graduates who aren't quite sure what to do with life. It's not a bad job, though, although I obviously want more money.

    Experience will get you the job ahead of inexperience, but an inexperienced graduate is better than an inexperienced non-grad.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This is the kind of thing I am doing, in my first year in my first module, which I will likely never ever touch:
    (see attachment)
    What have you got to work out? x?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I earn £5.39 per hour during the holidays when I work in the Co-op. Apart from that I live of not much student loan (£3k a year, wahey.) Yes Lucifer, I know I didn't earn that ;)

    I'm 20.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    £13k a year in loans, grants, bursaries and scholarships.
    Thats ridiculous to get that each year. I get way less than half of that each year. Infact, when I graduate, I'll owe £12k back to the loans company and thats for the whole three years I've been at university (don't know what the interest will be).

    Anyways, I earn £5.35 before 12 and £5.85 after twelve. What I earn each week depends on the hours I get. It changes every week.

    I have no idea what I'll be earning after University as I have no idea what I want to do.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kaffrin wrote:
    I'm hoping to pull an Infinite though

    I read that far too fast and thought I had a new admirer :o
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What have you got to work out? x?

    The sign on the left means it wants the indefinite integral of that function.

    But because it's got xs on the bottom, you have to mess about with partial fractions, then integrate it, then put it all together. A load of faff, basically.

    *Snow white queen* - I know it's OTT, however I did include the £3000 tuition fees loan as well, which I don't personally see a penny off. Then over the year, I spend £2400 on accommodation, £1500 on food and going out, and the rest is well... I guess I'm going to take up driving lessons and save some.

    Bear in mind though with the massive shortage of maths graduates, some of that is in fact 'bribery' to get me to do the course.
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