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News of the World succeeds in driving paedophile underground
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/6170849.stmA convicted paedophile has been moved from his Somerset home by police after a crowd of angry residents protested outside his home.
Robert Oliver, 52, was a member of a gang involved in the killing of 14-year-old Jason Swift in 1985.
His whereabouts in Bishop's Lydeard were revealed by a Sunday newspaper and about 100 people demanded he be moved.
Earlier police had appealed for calm, warning "persistent media attention" could drive Mr Oliver underground.
The protesters grew in number throughout Monday. More police officers were drafted in as fears for his safety increased.
Would anyone in favour of implementing the so-called "Sarah's Law" care to explain what good exactly this action has achieved?
Can someone publish the address of the editor of the News of the World and of its proprietor Rupert Murdoch? I'd like to pay them a visit of my own...
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BTW alladin, are you a parent?
Even after the laws of this country have determined a person have paid their price for a crime?
Shame time machines haven't been invented. Otherwise you could transport yourself to a time and place where such things were commonplace, and live happily ever after (until the lynch mob set their eyes on you, for a real or imaginary offence of course).
And no, I'm not a parent. Why? Why are you trying to suggest? And why should it matter? If I were a parent I would want sex offenders to be left alone. The tabloid-reading, placard-waving hoardes should try to think for 5 minutes which situation is worse: sex offenders' locations being known to the police, or sex offenders being driven underground by idiotic hate mobs and the police losing track of them.
I'm torn. Sitting 300 miles away I don't think that the paper should have named him and the vigilantes shouldn't have won. It's better to know where they are.
But if I knew that a murdering raping nonce had moved in next to my family then I'd drive him out too, and I can fully understand why the community does not want that cunt in their area. I wouldn't.
The solution, of course, would have been to give proper justice for what he did to that young boy- he should be in prison forever.
Unless the police are monitoring 24/7 then they can't guarantee protection.
And when a convicted paedophile under supervision is given enough leeway to abduct a child from her bath, brutally and violently rape her, and then dump her naked in an alleyway in a snowstorm, I can't exactly blame communities for wanting to take things into their own hands.
The supervision meant that he was caught quickly, so it worked, but that isn't much consolation to the six-year-old girl who was almost killed by him.
If I was a parent I wouldn't want this scum bag that was part of a paedophile gang that killed a 14 year old boy living near my my children, where my children play.
There not idiotic hate mobs as you put it, there concerned parents concerned over the welfare of there children. If you was a parent and wernt protesting for this murdering scum bag to be moved, I think people would start talking about you.
But the guy did his time. Surely the whole English justice system is based on the premise that a convicted criminal can change? Granted some do and some don't but this guy hasn't offended in 9 years. Does that not suggest to you that he's going straight and has some sentiment of remorse over what he did? He has paid his due to society and thus has a right to pursue his life without harassment from these kind of vigilante cunts.
However, in this country, anyone who has been in prison is immediately tarred with the brush that they must be evil to the bone and it's only a matter of time before they'll be back inside. For a 'free' country, there is a fuck of a lot of retarded discrimination flying around the place where people are treated as second-class citizens. This is just another example of this.
The guy did his time. His sentence may have been a little lenient but that's not his fault. He hasn't reoffended in 9 years. Just leave the poor guy alone and let him get on with his life.
Apart from those who chase paediatricians or put bricks through the windows of the wrong man simply because he's single and a bit of an oddball...
What about a man who's got a record for sleeping with a 15 year girl? Would Graham Rix be a danger to local children? Should he be hounded out?
What about people with convictions for drug dealing? What about those who have been done for drink driving?
Where do you draw the line?
It's a very difficult one. But when push comes to shove there is nothing to gain by revealing the whereabouts of sex offenders, really, as they do have to live somewhere once they have served their time. It seems crazy to talk about behaving in a way that is "fair" to a paedophile but there is no other choice post-sentence. Unless you subscribe to that lovely old idea of shipping them all off to a desert island somewhere... and even then you know there'd be a rabid mob chartering a boat there post-haste.
It's all very well saying leave them alone, that its best to know where they are BUT if they were living in your street by your children, it would be a different kettle of fish!
Your absolutly out of order referring to parents as idiots because they dont want there children out playing where theres a convicted murdering nonce. Until you become a father you have no right passing judgement on concerned parents like this.
And for the record, a few years ago everyone signed a petition to tell the public where peodos live. Are the parents idiots for doing so and wanting to protect there children? A few months back a pedophile has been spotted down a primary school near me. Now you tell me when your a father, you arnt bothered if a peado is waiting outside your childs primary school.
Bloody NIMBY!
Having a murdering paedohile is in a completely different ball game from having just a peodo.
Its a well you feeling sorry for them saying "theres no choice post sentence", but the parents of that murdered boy are serving there own life sentence having lost there son.
And yes, I would love to see them shipped off somewhere then dumped.
The ones I'm calling idiots are those who create hate mobs and more often than not end up chasing the wrong man.
And yes, sure as fuck I am able to judge others whether I'm a parent or not. The entire justice system of this country is based on the principle that once a prisoner serves his time he is entitled to rejoin society. There is no place for hate mobs and vigilante 'justice' in this country. Not regarding sex offenders, not regarding anyone.
Could you kindly explain how knowing where sex offenders live is going to help you or anyone else stop them from hanging around a school?
This is what you are failing to grasp. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF A LOCAL HATE MOB DRIVES ALL THE PAEDOS OUT OF THEIR HOMES IN AN AREA. NOTHING CAN STOP THEM FROM VISITING THE SAID AREA IF THEY WISH. YOU GAIN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM DRIVING PAEDOPHILES UNDERGROUND. YOU ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS WORSE.
However, I don't think we can continue to deal out our own unique brand of punishment and "justice" once someone has been dealt with by the judicial system (even if it is not considered by all to have been real justice). Just what is at the bottom of that slippery slope?
Too right!
Personally i think that those kind of people sholdn't be let out of prison/a secure unit. As they clearly have something wrong with thier head.
You mean the concerned parents that dont want there children living near a murdering peodo?
Again you dont see it through parents eyes.
Because as peodos arnt allowed to go near schools, this one has gone near a school, so now he is a possible threat so hopefully concerned parents for there children can protest with flamed torches outside his house.
Yes but he has done his time, repaid his debt to society and has not offended in 9 years. There is such a thing as remorse and regret; factors on which the English judicial system is founded.
Just because he murdered a child 20 years ago doesn't necessarily mean that he'll do it again.
Remember that hate fuels hate.
That and treating sexual offences against children as a mental health issue would mean we could keep them locked up until they were deemed safe, not just for a set period.